2H+5Way = 1-B| 2-B w/ Black Ice| 3-B & N|4-N|5-Coil Split N

[cloberellabeatsuup]

Good day axecrafters, first time poster up in hurre requesting permission to obtain knowledge. In fact, I have two seperate inquiries daaamn!

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How to wire/clues/links regarding:

• 2 humbuckers. 1 volume. 1 tone. Simple 5-way blade switch. 2 1N5817 diodes wired in parallel a la StewMac's Black Ice.

(I am trying to avoid using push/pull pots, mini-switches, and 5-way superswitch.)

I'm dreaming of positions 1, 3, and 5 being bridge, bridge and neck, and neck respectively, then using the two "empty" lugs on the 5-way switch (positions 2 and 4) to provide

• an "onboard passive distortion" tone via my DIY Black Ice (shorted to ground I imagine)
• a coil-split neck humbucker (are the screws or slugs supposed to be "on top"?) leaving the "northern"-most coil all by itself
  
  
  Anybody have a clue? Thanks in advance yo! Oooooh, almost fartgot aboot me second qvestion....I wonder about PCBs and how to simplify possibly complex pickup- and switch wiring inside a guitar....the pickups are passive, but would taking advantage some strengths vero- or strip-board help me with creating modular plug-and-play designs? Just a little bi-curious....Once again thanks errrrone, and keep on like truckin or whatevs. I'm cereal tho, thanks.

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1) Bridge
2) Bridge + Black ICE
3) Bridge + Neck
4) Neck + Blace ICE
5) Neck

Could do with a 2P5T lever ..
ok as for Modula i've been looking it a design myself .. and i guess could use a Vero/Strip Board but needs to be dam big space for this system i would guess

[newey]

cloberellabeatsuup-

Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2!

Andellahash is right, you can't do this with a regular Strat 5-way switch, because positions 2 and 4 are not independently wire-able on those switches. Angellahash says a 2P5T would do it, this is the so-called "half Superswitch", and maybe it can, he's more clever than I am. I was thinking you'd need the full 4-pole Superswitch.

On a regular Strat 5-way switch, position 2 just shorts lugs 1 and 3, so you get the parallel combination of whatever is wired to 1 and whatever is wired to 3. At 4, it's 3 and 5 in parallel, same thing.

Positions 2 and 4 are called the "notch positions" because people used to file notches into Fender's Strat 3-way switches to give those "in-between" positions. Eventually, Fender just made a switch to do the mod and started putting it in all their Strats . . .

But it's not a 5-throw switch, it's a 2P3T with in-between shorting positions.

[sumgai]

clober,



I second newey, to The NutzHouse!


As it happens, I designed a near duplicate of your desired circuit for member 4real , way back in (checks file date in an ancient folder....) September of 2007. While that didn't have the pup split (it was SSS), I did turn on (or off) a sustainer. (Long timers will recall that 4real was a real maven in the field of DIY sustainer devices.)  Looking it over now, I see that I can do the same for a BlackIce (clone), but there will be at least one compromise - there will likely be a popping sound as the BlackIce is powered on and off.  It might be small, and not a problem, or it might be quite annoying.  We can cure that, if push comes to shove.

I presume that when the BlackIce is on, it will be applied only to the pickup closest to it, (whichever is in) Position 5.  But with a bit of clever fooling around, we can get both pups working with the distortion.   Call it a duplicate of Position 3 (both pups), but with added distortion.  Just  be aware that whichever way you choose to go, it's going to be permanent.  (Unless you/we get fancy with more switching.)

Now, I'm certainly not the be-all, end-all of design wizardry, there are others here who might be able to do everything even more simply than I'm envisioning, but the way I see it, a half-Superswitch is in your near future.   BTW, if you're not in the USA, we Nutz understand that shipping costs might be a real stinker for you.  But if you simply ask, one (or more!) of us will be happy to acquire the part, and then send it on to you at a much cheaper shipping cost.  Several members here have done that for others, over the years.

HTH





sumgai

[newey]

Sorry, cloberellabeatsuup, I had to move this thread as it didn't belong in the schematics section.

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ALPHA
If you cut the board at the top on both sides and on the middle pad near the top
1&8 hooks up to two pads at the top, we are cutting them so it only feeds position 2&4. Also cut the other side on the 3 Pad Middle row, near the top. Making this now only active in position 3&4.

1&8 Black Ice
2&3 Neck
4&5 Output
6&7 Bridge

1) Bridge
2) Bridge & Black Ice
3) Bridge & Neck
4) Neck & Black Ice
5) Neck

1) Pin1 cut so N/A and Pin6 Bridge
2) Pin1 Black Ice, Pin2 cut so N/A, Pin6 and Pin7 Bridge
3) Pin2 Neck and Pin7 Bridge
4) Pin2 and Pin3 Neck, Pin7 cut so N/A and Pin8 Black Ice
4) Pin3 Neck and Pin8 cut so N/A