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Post by reTrEaD on Jan 20, 2023 17:21:41 GMT -5
There is one group of guitarists who can play more notes in less time than I can- they're faster than I will ever be. This impresses me a little. I know, right? Cramming a bunch of notes in a short amount of time has a huge wow factor, but quickly bores me. There is another group where, with some study and practice, I can play their solos note by note, but I will never sound the same as they do- they have a "feel", "soul in their fingers", call it what you will, but they've got it and I don't. Time and practice won't change that, although it would probably speed me up. This impresses me much more. The group is large, but in it I put B.B. King, George Benson, Carlos Santana, Peter Green among others. I think of a few things to call it. Articulate. Nuance. Phrasing. Having a distinctive voice.
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 21, 2023 10:22:17 GMT -5
If you've ever heard a Steely Dan song on the radio, there's a good chance you've already heard this guy play. Larry Carlton This was him at Montreux in 1979...so it just made it in under wire. He also had hair in this video...much like I did back in '79... His kid is an amazing bass player in his own right. If this blows your skirt up, the whole show is here: Larry Carlton - Live At Montreux Jazz Festival (1979)HTC1
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Post by pyrroz on Jan 21, 2023 14:01:06 GMT -5
If you've ever heard a Steely Dan song on the radio, there's a good chance you've already heard this guy play. Larry Carlton This was him at Montreux in 1979...so it just made it in under wire. He also had hair in this video...much like I did back in '79... His kid is an amazing bass player in his own right. If this blows your skirt up, the whole show is here: Larry Carlton - Live At Montreux Jazz Festival (1979)HTC1
Nice Disco fusion jazz!! haha, talking about Disco and funk, I have the opinion that they are not covered as much as the rock or jazz players in the guitar circles. So there might be some gems (or jems!! depending on whether they play Ibanez haha) among them! Just thinking loud. And as you guys say : but I digress !
Same thing with country. There have been some fantastic guitar players playing USA folk music (Roy Clark), that are totally unknown to the rest of the world. I guess there is this demographic / cultural barrier sometimes. Also folk players from eastern euro, similarly never got known or famous.
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 21, 2023 16:13:49 GMT -5
Nice Disco fusion jazz!! haha Oh man, μη με αναγκάσεις να κατέβω εκεί κάτ Fusion has always had a funkier side to it...Marcus Miller comes to mind...but disco... ...με σκοτωνεις... HTC1
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Post by newey on Jan 22, 2023 9:44:23 GMT -5
Same thing with country. There have been some fantastic guitar players playing USA folk music (Roy Clark), that are totally unknown to the rest of the world. Talent crosses genres. In country music, guys like Vince Gill, Keith Urban, and many others can play just about anything. But for my money, Brad Paisley is the best of the bunch. Here he is at the Opry, on a duet with the great Tommy Emmanuel:
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Post by b4nj0 on Jan 22, 2023 11:03:41 GMT -5
No love for Danny?
Oh gawd that solo- so much going on there.
Most bases have been covered already so I was minded to namedrop Tommy Bolin (check him out on the Billy Cobham album- the word "Spectrum" comes to mind, but I'm 300 miles from my vinyl collection right now) but for me Danny takes some beating, especially as a genre-crossing maestro.
Edit: cue Sumgai with a harmonics conundrum ...
でつ e&oe ...
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Post by sumgai on Jan 22, 2023 12:05:26 GMT -5
but I'm 300 miles from my vinyl collection right now The only conundrum I can think of right now isn't related to harmonics, but instead of your oblique reference to Unobtainium, as first promulgated by ChrisK, way back in the dusty antiquity of time. As Chris was wont to put it: "I can't put my hands on it right now, it's in another city". In a couple of weeks, it'll be thirteen years since his passing from these waters. Newbies, I strongly suggest that you seek out his postings, I can almost guarantee that you'll learn something from every one of them. Or at least you'll get a laugh, he had a subtle sense of humor that made you think twice, before going "A-Ha!". HTH sumgai
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Post by reTrEaD on Jan 22, 2023 15:12:01 GMT -5
Brad was born in the '70s but didn't become known until shortly before the new millennium. So I reckon now that we've moved forward in time, I'm not setting a new precedent by mentioning some more recent guitar masters. There are literally dozens with releases on CandyRat records. One of my (many) favorites who got his start there is Mike Dawes. Here he is, covering an EVH song (paying homage with the tape-job on his guitar):
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 22, 2023 16:44:48 GMT -5
I'm gonna drag it back to the 70's. Parliment\Funkadelic recorded this in 1971, but there are precious few video recordings I could find that didn't completely suck, or were from after 1979. This one is from 1979.
Eddie Hazel
George Clinton always gave him more room to play than most funk bands in the 70's. He passed away about 30 years ago...around Christmas, as I recall.
Enjoy
HTC1
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Post by sumgai on Jan 22, 2023 16:52:39 GMT -5
I generally don't admit to having anything to do with CandyRat, but I long ago discovered Andy McKee and Antoine DuFour via this video: As you might imagine, this is a rabbit hole that you don't want to go down without bringing along your towel.* As the kids nowadays like to say "mad skills, dude, really rad!" sumgai * And just who was told to bring his towel, eh?
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 22, 2023 18:32:16 GMT -5
* And just who was told to bring his towel, eh? Arthur Dent. It was a hard question... HTC1
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Post by pyrroz on Jan 23, 2023 2:48:13 GMT -5
Same thing with country. There have been some fantastic guitar players playing USA folk music (Roy Clark), that are totally unknown to the rest of the world. Talent crosses genres. In country music, guys like Vince Gill, Keith Urban, and many others can play just about anything. But for my money, Brad Paisley is the best of the bunch. Here he is at the Opry, on a duet with the great Tommy Emmanuel:
This is supreme guitar work. I would very much be interested in string gauges and also relief and string action, and general setup on their acoustics. Only the fact that they use regular acoustics is amazing. They did it al in this video, economy picking, muting, strumming. By the sound of the hard strummed notes by Brad Paisley, I'd guess his action is low. So here comes the question to Cyn1, how do we lower strung action on the acoustic when we have exhausted all available tweaks, and it is already as low as possible but still high for electric standards. Hmmm IMHO I'd lower the action and use 11s!!
I see Tommy Emmanuel is using some special pick, and does this chicken picking thing, while Brad Paisley uses a regular pick and normal (excellent) picking technique.
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Post by pyrroz on Jan 23, 2023 3:08:59 GMT -5
I generally don't admit to having anything to do with CandyRat, but I long ago discovered Andy McKee and Antoine DuFour via this video: As you might imagine, this is a rabbit hole that you don't want to go down without bringing along your towel.* As the kids nowadays like to say "mad skills, dude, really rad!" sumgai * And just who was told to bring his towel, eh?
fantastic!
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 23, 2023 8:31:32 GMT -5
So here comes the question to Cyn1, how do we lower strung action on the acoustic when we have exhausted all available tweaks, and it is already as low as possible but still high for electric standards. Hmmm IMHO I'd lower the action and use 11s!! I had to look this up, as I don't screw with acoustic instruments anymore than I have to. Here's the recommended action for a classical guitar setup: @ the 12th fret: Low E: 5/32" (4mm) High E: 1/8" (3mm) This must seem like you'd need a ladder to reach them, but this is pretty typical. You can file the bridge and nut, use a lighter string gauge, try mandolin frets...but this is the nature of the beast. IMHO, if you want low action and an acoustic sound... Graphtech Ghost saddles and the accompanying Acousti-Phonic preamp. HTC1
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 23, 2023 10:14:06 GMT -5
This was my introduction to Brad Paisley where he takes an audience member's GoPro and uses it as a slide in a live show.: I respect Brad Paisley. HTC1
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Post by sumgai on Jan 23, 2023 12:34:35 GMT -5
Heh heh heh, oh, you just know this is coming: Roland VG series, anyone? Somewhat more expensive when purchased new, agreed. But used? Not much more than a new Acousti-Phonic setup. Any one of the VG units comes with a large variety of modeled acoustic guitars. By all accounts, they are more than just acceptable, they are actually usable, right out of the box. And the large number of adjustable parameters, it's almost insane how much you can define and "dial in" to get a tone that makes you go "Holy Guitar Strings, Batman!!" Recommendation: Previous to the GR-55, the GR series units also have acoustic guitars built-in, but these are synth units, whereas the VG series are modelers. The difference is noticable to the discerning ear. The GR-55 has both types under the hood, synth and modeler. Even at 12 years old now, they still command a price-point that gives pause to the player's wallet. Now if you wanna go single-source, not hexaphonic (i.e. a hex pickup, as needed for the above mentioned units (which also means, the aforementioned Graphtech Ghost saddles)), then the Boss SY-300 might earn your interest. Nearly as good for less cash outlay, but fewer options to play with. Still, it all comes down to cost versus obtaining one's Mojo Tone™. HTH sumgai
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Post by pyrroz on Jan 31, 2023 2:22:28 GMT -5
I guess they are unknown in the west (and Greece sadly, although we were neighbors) , here are two players in ex-Yugoslavia whom I hold pretty high : Rade Tomic Beli :
crazy picking accuracy.
And here is another one, from the far south : Vlatko Stefanovski
this is a late recording, but you get the picture. This guy is more jazzy, fusion-y, equally local, balkan-fusion, Yugoslav style.
This is from 1979, playing fusion-jazz :
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Post by cynical1 on Jan 31, 2023 5:46:21 GMT -5
That was a nice surprise. I had never heard of this guy before. That track reminded me of something you posted a while back...Balkan Improvisations...if I recall. Always wondered where that sprang from. While it's not out of the 70's, (and a 2 hour show, so no video) I found this show from 2008 with Jan Ackerman: Vlatko Stefanovski Trio feat. Jan Akkerman (2008, Zagreb) [full concert] If you liked Pyrroz's video you should enjoy this, too. HTC1
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Post by pyrroz on Jan 31, 2023 12:54:57 GMT -5
That was a nice surprise. I had never heard of this guy before. That track reminded me of something you posted a while back...Balkan Improvisations...if I recall. Always wondered where that sprang from. While it's not out of the 70's, (and a 2 hour show, so no video) I found this show from 2008 with Jan Ackerman: Vlatko Stefanovski Trio feat. Jan Akkerman (2008, Zagreb) [full concert] If you liked Pyrroz's video you should enjoy this, too. HTC1
Your memory is sharp as a knife Cyn1! Congrats! Thanks for the vid!
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