m0b1liz3
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Post by m0b1liz3 on Jun 20, 2006 4:50:03 GMT -5
I have a 3 position, 4 pole rotary switch a friend gave me.
I wanted to wire this in combination with the 5 way switch on my strat.
1st position to give the stock strat settings 2nd position to give neck+bridge in series (and other series combos) 3rd position (all on parallel and neck + bridge combo) and whatever is left over...
Anyone done this? How can I work this out?
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Post by good_samaritane on Jun 20, 2006 17:43:55 GMT -5
Hi and WELCOME TO GUITARNUTS: This simple design will do exactly what you want, I hope you can understand the tricky wiring diagram. Enjoy, JLB EDIT: JUNE,22. Corrected image, some typing errors...
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Post by m0b1liz3 on Jun 21, 2006 18:27:22 GMT -5
That is a cool diagram.
Are the AC and D tabs on the rotary switch connected to the ACD tabs on the 5-way? That is alot of wires coming off the rotary!
Can any other wiring gurus verify this design? There is alot of soldering with this so would be cool to get a 2nd opinion before forging ahead!
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Post by good_samaritane on Jun 21, 2006 18:47:27 GMT -5
Hi, m0b1liz3
That's right. A, C and D from the switch to A, C and D on the mixer. You can wire both A's, both C's and both D's in the switch to get only one wire to the mixer A, C and D.
Well, I'm the father of the criature, so it is a good idea to wait for a morre impartial opinion.
Enjoy,
JLB
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Post by good_samaritane on Jun 21, 2006 19:20:57 GMT -5
Hi again m.
I read your message. As I tell in the diagram post it is a bit tricky, but works fine.
One thing that helps a bit if you can't understand the diagram is to draw the 3 possible diagrams independently as if the switch wasn't there.
In the position 1 the switch wires all the connection as in the Strat standard wiring, in the second position just the middle pickup is connected to the "pickup side" of the mixer, the neck pickup is connected to the D terminal, so it will be selected when the mixer is on the positions 1, 2, 4 and 5, that won't give "death positions" with no output and the bridge pickup is set in series with the output; on the 3rd position the BRIDGE (not the NECK) pickup is set to a special PICKUP-ON that gives the combos N+B and N+M+B and keep the M, M+B and B standard modes.
Of course, I've supossed you are going to replace one of the tone controls with the switch to keep the stock appearance, so I've rewired the new tone control to be a master tone control.
Just one more thing: I made a similar (not equal) mod to my Strat last January and you will love the "BRIDGE-ON Special" wiring and probably you'll soon forget that the rotary switch has a "1" position.
...go to bed, the night is young...
JLB
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Post by m0b1liz3 on Jun 21, 2006 22:38:57 GMT -5
"I made a similar (not equal) mod to my Strat last January..."
Er, so I will be the first to actually wire this up this way? ahh!!
And yes I did want the master tone like you said. (Should the tone pot be Linear though?)
Thanks alot for sharing your design. Just need my new pickguard to arrive and then I will attempt to solder this up!
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Post by CheshireCat on Jun 22, 2006 17:38:25 GMT -5
"I made a similar (not equal) mod to my Strat last January..." Er, so I will be the first to actually wire this up this way? ahh!! And yes I did want the master tone like you said. (Should the tone pot be Linear though?) Thanks alot for sharing your design. Just need my new pickguard to arrive and then I will attempt to solder this up! That's an excellent looking diagram. Something else to consider would be a SuperSwitch, which is 5Pos/4Pole, and will open up other possibilities. Chesh
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Post by m0b1liz3 on Jun 23, 2006 1:53:27 GMT -5
How do you orient the switch??
On the top side there is a tab. The tab is near where the 3 positions are on the switch. Would I take where the tab is to be the north side of the switch and orient the bottom wiring accordingly??
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Post by p_world_visitor on Jun 23, 2006 17:54:06 GMT -5
Well, M
I orient the switch with the ABC connection side (pickup standard connection side) up on the diagram, but it doesn't matter too much as the stock mixer is "electrically" simetric, if you don't remove the mixer from the pickguard the correct connection will be to put the ABC tabs looking to the nearest cavity wall.
And YES, the pot's (both) can be linnear if you like their behavior. Any value from 250K up to 500K will be fine.
And YES, you can be the first to use this mod if you do it soon. Many people visits these pages.
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Thanks Chesh, it is an open design and this is a modders forum. What more do you need?
JLB
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Post by CheshireCat on Jun 24, 2006 2:11:44 GMT -5
Thanks Chesh, it is an open design and this is a modders forum. What more do you need? First, ymw! Second, "what more do I need"?
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Post by genmce on Apr 30, 2012 9:28:27 GMT -5
What does the mixer output in the first drawing connect to? I'm considering using this with 3 humbuckers.
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Post by sumgai on Apr 30, 2012 10:11:13 GMT -5
genny, I think you just took the record for 'reviving' an old thread out of the ashes - 5 years and 10 months! ;D (Formerly held by chuck at a little over 4 years.) What does the mixer output in the first drawing connect to? I'm considering using this with 3 humbuckers. Fortunately JLB left a bunch of notes scattered all over the image, so we can answer your question thus: connect the "mixer output" to the Yellow terminal (lower left of the four) in the center of the mixer switch (the 4P3T jobbie). BTW, we never got final confirmation that this was finished, so you're now elected to be The Official Guinea Pig! ;D HTH sumgai (EDIT - fixed a typo.)
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Post by genmce on Apr 30, 2012 11:30:52 GMT -5
It would help if had actually read the whole thing. I did not see that. I win for oldest thread revival! Yeah - I win win win. I never win and I'm at a loss... It is on my agenda for the HHH electric 12 string.
I need to make some diagrams... how are they accomplished - that is probably already in another thread somewhere... I have 3 of these rotarys
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