HH with 3-way toggle switch and 3 mini switches

[Hana]

Hi!

I really hope I didn't miss something and am posting a redundant question... 
I have a guitar with 2 humbuckers and a weird active circuit with treble/bass pots that I would really like to modify, but I realized I may be in a bit over my head.

The current setup it has is one 3-way toggle switch, 4 pots (1 push-pull for activating the circuit and master volume, 1 master tone, 1 treble control, 1 bass control) and 3 mini switches (split neck, split bridge, and out of phase in the middle).

But this setup requires a 9V battery to work and it gets annoying having to switch it every once in a while, plus all that theoretical "tone sucking" from the usage of a PCB, and I would like to get rid of all that jazz and have a simple passive wiring instead. So I bought a better toggle switch, 4 pots, 3 miniswitches, 2 caps, and 2 resistors hoping to make it work closer to a Les Paul instead - neck volume/tone, bridge volume/tone, and the miniswitches for split/out-of-phase, but I am completely lost on how to wire this setup and I don't fully understand how the miniswitches work...



I think it should be similar to this picture that I found in the thread with HH guitar wiring schematics, but I have 3 miniswitches instead of push-pull pots and I don't know how to rework it for my needs.

I used DiyLC to put the items I have on a plan here: 

The reason I bought 2 resistors is so I do the PRS coil split "trick" to make the split sound closer to an actual single coil (I know it can't be 100% real sadly, but one can dream!) but while I understand the basic ideas for each part individually, when it's time to combine I am lost entirely and have no idea what wire to solder where... 

I do have some minimal experience having rewired 2 Strats with new parts and changed pickups in a Les Paul, but they were the basic wiring without any extra switches or options.
Could I please get some help with this? I tried researching the topic a lot but maybe I am too dumb to understand how it all works.

[JohnH]

As a starter, if that diagram with push-pulls is close to what you need, then you can wire yours the same. The 6 lugs on the switch part of a push pull correspond exactly to the similar 2x3 layout of lugs on a mini-toggle. Just imagine the switches moved away from their pots, with wires stretching to suit.

The only thing that you might want to consider is that when you push a PP switch in, the middle lugs connect to the outer-most lugs. On a mini-toggle, you flick the lever down and the middle lugs connect to the upper lugs. That issue may not matter unless you want to control which setting is up and down.

[Hana]

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[newey]

Hana-

Not sure why you're having problems. Are you ProBoards mobile app or on the desktop version?

[Hana]

Nov 18, 2024 9:07:04 GMT -5 newey said:

Hana-

Not sure why you're having problems. Are you ProBoards mobile app or on the desktop version?

Ohhhhh, I "cracked" this mystery! I was playing with the forum themes and left it set to "Soft Contrast" instead of "Default".
It seems that when that theme is selected, all messages, whether in threads or PMs get replaced by that [object Object] thingie upon posting

[Hana]

Nov 16, 2024 15:26:31 GMT -5 JohnH said:

As a starter, if that diagram with push-pulls is close to what you need, then you can wire yours the same. The 6 lugs on the switch part of a push pull correspond exactly to the similar 2x3 layout of lugs on a mini-toggle. Just imagine the switches moved away from their pots, with wires stretching to suit.

The only thing that you might want to consider is that when you push a PP switch in, the middle lugs connect to the outer-most lugs. On a mini-toggle, you flick the lever down and the middle lugs connect to the upper lugs. That issue may not matter unless you want to control which setting is up and down.

Thank you for the reply! Now that I found the issue that stopped me from properly answering I can actually do it.

If I understand correctly, my wiring should go something like this:
Pickup > coil split switch > volume pot > (ONE OF THEM) phase switch > toggle switch > output jack
With the tone pots connecting to the volume ones, right?

I also noticed this schematic has the capacitors wired entirely to the tone pots, whereas Les Paul diagrams usually show the capacitors between the volume and tone pots. Does that change anything or is it just a personal choice?