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[kapnobatai]

Hi guys, I need your help very badly. Please draw me a draft how to solder 3 single-coil stratocaster pickups using 5-position megaswitcher and 2 3-position switches.
I would like the normal style of switchng (neck, neck+middle, middle, middle+brinde, bridge), except that when there's neck+middle and bridge+middle I would like to be able to switch them parrallel/in series using one of two 3-position (or would be a 2-position better??) switchers. Also I would like to have a bass cut-off (a capacitor in series with the guitar signal, so I would be able to tune the amount of bass as i want ) using another of two switches. That's all Would it be a great problem?

I have tried to do this thing myself for three times, but unfortunately with no success So the only thing that had left is to ask for your help
THX!!

[wolf]

kapnobatai
Welcome to the boards.

I'm not a fan of the 5 way switch nor a fan of the 4 pole megaswitch.
I have my own wiring for a Fender 3 coil guitar which definitely does what you want:
www.1728.com/guitar2.htm

As far as putting a capacitor in series with a guitar output, I think that wouldn't work very well. I'll let a more knowledgeable person talk about that.

[kapnobatai]

Wolf, thanks, but its not what i'd like. Your schematic uses 5 switchers. It's not convenient to use them. No offence meant, but it looks to me as if it was a crappy soviet guitar "Ural" :-D
Unfortunetely, i have played them a couple of times.....
The megaswitcher is a convenient way to switch pickups, and a 2-way switcher should be enough to switch pickups parallel\in series.
I've drawn a scheme, checked it twice, it HAS to work, but it's not working and i don't know why.... Could you please tell me where i can attach a picture or can i do it here (and how), so you can check it and tell me if it's correct? And please excuse me for my english, because it's not my native language, and i understand that sometimes you just may not understand what i mean. I'll try to answer all questions if it'll be necessary

[kapnobatai]

Concerning the capacitor, I think i have a better idea. I can use a resistor in series with the guitar signal and a capacitor parallel to this resistor. It should be better, because the circuit is not open in this case.

[wolf]

Hello Again,
Well I guess you don't like that circuit huh?

Anyway, for posting images, just about everybody here uses www.photobucket.com
You upload images to photobucket and you link to it right here at Guitar Nuts 2.
For example, here's a photo I have at photobucket:

I've always liked that guitar (never owned one though).
Anyway, I just thought I'd give you a little help about posting images. (I think you'll need to know a few more things too).

Anyway, set up your photobucket account and get those graphics on there.

[kapnobatai]

thanks for help Here's the sketch
i187.photobucket.com/albums/x63/gopvnopirog/bred-1.gif

I think it's quite nice But it works only "on a piece of paper" :-D I checked it one more time before uploading and found a little mistake (red line was missing) Please check it. If it works, it would be far more handly (the word is correct?) to switch pickups because there would remain the appears-to-be-standard strat switcher which is quite good.

[wolf]

Well you got your photobucket account and uploaded the file too.
If you want the photo to appear right on this board copy the photobucket information from the "image" box.


Anyway, you might have to explain those symbols. (I might also redraw that whenever I get the time).
Those 3 objects at the very top are coils correct? Underneath those coils those things that look like swords and 5 lines to the left of each, is that the 4 pole megaswitch?

[kapnobatai]

You are absolutely right about coils and megaswitch. The "horisontal parts of swords" are moving simultaneously.

[kapnobatai]

the sketch is hard to understand, but i didn't have much time to draw it better. Besides, our symbols differ, as i can conclude from your question about switch. In our country it's a standard symbol, as well as coils

[UnklMickey]

be careful guys,

make sure we're talking apples vs apples and not apples vs oranges.

the superswitch and megaswitch M are functionally identical.

the Megaswitch S, T , P, E, and E+ are entirely different animals... erm... fruit.

[wolf]

Okay, I tried redrawing it. I hope I haven't made any mistakes.



I left the connections near the "super-switch" alone. I'm figuring those will eventually get changed.

I'm guessing the thick black horizontal line is the symbol you use for ground?

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Graphic Updated June 2, 2007

[kapnobatai]

No mistakes after redrawing were found. The thick black horizontal line is indeed the symbol of ground

[michaelcbell]

The concept is there, and the low cut filter seems correct, but there are a few issues which may be causing your problems:
1: in parallel mode, position 3, you've got a direct path to ground (= dead). This could be corrected if you connected the mid to the common terminal on section 3 (counted L to R) of the superswitch, connecting hot to the center (position 3) and the feed from the Parallel/Series switch to pos 2 and 4
2: your N and B pups seem to wired in reverse phase, thought that might just be the way you drew it.
Everything else seems ok. Are you having problems other than position 3?

[kapnobatai]

michaelcbell said:

The concept is there, and the low cut filter seems correct, but there are a few issues which may be causing your problems:
1: in parallel mode, position 3, you've got a direct path to ground (= dead). This could be corrected if you connected the mid to the common terminal on section 3 (counted L to R) of the superswitch, connecting hot to the center (position 3) and the feed from the Parallel/Series switch to pos 2 and 4
2: your N and B pups seem to wired in reverse phase, thought that might just be the way you drew it.
Everything else seems ok. Are you having problems other than position 3?

Could you please draw a new picture? Your reply is hard for me to understand

[michaelcbell]

I've marked my changes in blue, along with all the stuff inside the grey dashed box (it got too confusing with all the x's) let me know if it's any clearer.

[kapnobatai]

thanks for cooperation, it was really helpful