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Post by Ripper on May 23, 2006 16:07:00 GMT -5
What would you choose?
A new[glow=red,2,300] Gibson Les Paul[/glow]...
Or...
A new [glow=red,2,300]Paul Reed Smith[/glow]...
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Post by RandomHero on May 23, 2006 16:21:47 GMT -5
PRS. Hands down. A McCarty with an unfinished rosewood neck, specifically.
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Post by sumgai on May 23, 2006 17:11:50 GMT -5
deep,
No choice for me either, any model PRS is better than any model LP, no further questions need be asked.
What, do you have an inheritance coming or something? ;D
sumgai
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Post by dunkelfalke on May 23, 2006 17:20:01 GMT -5
neither actually but if there is only that choice - prs custom 24 i think, of everything prs makes it seems to come nearest to my favourite guitar type
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Post by UnklMickey on May 23, 2006 17:53:23 GMT -5
depends on why you want it.
to play it, and use it, PRS.
to put it in a case and wait for it to increase in value, Gibson.
PRS might increase in value like a Gibson, maybe even more so.
but Gibson has a proven track record of doing this.
BTW: i love the bridge PRS uses. that everyone else seems to think is a cheap PoS.
unk
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Post by RandomHero on May 23, 2006 18:59:20 GMT -5
They just see "Few parts, less quality." BS. Few parts = better coupling = MONSTER SUSTAIN/ATTACK/TONE/GOODNESS.
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Post by mike on May 23, 2006 19:38:39 GMT -5
My son and I went to Guitar Center the other day and played the high dollar Les Pauls and PRS. We were weren't impressed. They were all nice and if I had the choice as a gift, I would take a Les Paul, if I got to pick it out.
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Post by UnklMickey on May 23, 2006 19:40:47 GMT -5
interesting PRS anecdote:
my best friend (a bassist) had a guitar player in one of his bands that had just gotten a PRS.
i was invited to try it out, but didn't. i was scared sh!tless that i might put the first ding or scratch in that beauty.
he was proud of having that guitar, and happy with it, except that he wouldn't be able to adjust the intonation for heavier gauge strings.
heavier gauge strings, with a wound G, require the G saddle be closer to the neck.
so with the fixed saddles on the stock bridge that leads to a terrible intonation problem.
he called PRS and chatted with Paul (i doubt you'd be able to talk to the CEO of Gibson, if you were just a customer.).
Paul told him, if he thought it should have an adjustable bridge, then it would have one.
they promptly sent out a Quan.... problem solved.
nice.
unk
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Post by UnklMickey on May 23, 2006 19:47:39 GMT -5
"...We were weren't impressed...."
Mike,
was it poor value per dollar that left you unimpressed, or are there other guitars that you felt were far superior?
unk
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Post by Ripper on May 23, 2006 22:06:52 GMT -5
Sumgai... As you know im a dedicated Stratocaster guy. I had a Les Paul in the early 90's, but sold it. Dont ask!... I now want a nice quality solidbody with that classic humbucker growl. From what ive heard here at GN2, Les pauls are not what they used to be. PRS's on the other hand are getting rave reviews from friends and fretheads in this forum. I know PRS is pricey, but LP's arent cheap either. I trust what I hear from you guys.
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Post by RandomHero on May 23, 2006 22:39:25 GMT -5
I've seen PRS and Gibson's factory tours. By comparison, PRS is simply breathtaking. If any of their guitars fails to pass a single point of their umpteen-hundred point inspection, even the most niggling flaw, do you know what they do with it?
They THROW IT IN A WOOD CHIPPER. I @#$% YOU NOT.
I've played brand new Gibsons with popped frets, disgusting inlay work, terrible nut slot carving, wretched wood grain patterns, and shoddy electronics. I have yet to find a single PRS that didn't feel like a woman and play like butter. I say this with confidence having worked at a GC for a good while. I saw quite a few.
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Post by Ripper on May 23, 2006 22:46:49 GMT -5
Randomhero...
Thanks for the info... Yes, I think PRS is the guitar in my future.
The model im looking at is behind glass at my music store...Its close to $3500! * Yikes* I have a little saving to do!
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Post by wolf on May 24, 2006 15:21:27 GMT -5
Deepblue Don't forget if you are here, then you are also a GuitarNut.
Don't you think after a short while that no matter how great the PRS looks, feels, sounds, etc that you just might want to change something on it (especially the wiring)? Just something to think about.
As for me, I'm amazed at some of the cheap guitars being so dämned good (OLP, Agile, Steinberger, the Saga Kit Guitar, etc). And you can "cut into" these without worrying about diminishing their collector's value.
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Post by UnklMickey on May 24, 2006 17:12:40 GMT -5
.... you can "cut into" these without worrying ... unlike the pretty secretary at work. that kind of behavior can get you into real trouble there. Wolf, you bring up a good point there, for someone who has a small budget for guitars. the money for a single Gibson or PRS could by you several cost-effective guitars and a drawer full of parts. you could be conducting "evil experiments" on one or two at a time. meanwhile you'd still have a few ready to pick up and play. but if you already have a harem, and have the buck$, having a high-end guitar is nice too. unk
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Post by ChrisK on May 25, 2006 14:12:10 GMT -5
AND, for the price of a PRS or a Gib$on, you can build two or three hellava good guitars.
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Post by mlrpa on Jun 6, 2006 16:38:23 GMT -5
"AND, for the price of a PRS or a Gib$on, you can build two or three hellava good guitars. "
2 or 3? My 5 babies cost less than $100 apiece! I could NEVER allow myself to spend such money on a guitar!
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Post by crazymanandy on Sept 9, 2006 15:36:57 GMT -5
AND, for the price of a PRS or a Gib$on, you can build two or three hellava good guitars. What he said ;D. CMA
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Post by the_uprising on Sept 11, 2006 16:09:38 GMT -5
In my limited experience of Gibson & Epiphone i still can not see the average of $500-$700 diffrence. And reading the PRS wood chipper story, that puts them (as a company) even that much more ahead in my book. But maybe im just biased because i just dont like Gibson in general because i feel they are overpriced and over rated...
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Post by png123 on Sept 18, 2006 16:20:43 GMT -5
Hey Guys, Nice to hear your opinion about this matter, I was looking at buying another guitar and my choice was between a PRS Santana and an LP.
Prices: PRS Santana : $1,100 Gibson LP (not studio) : c. $1,800,00
This is from where i live. If i ever go to America i will Definatelty get down a guitar.
Anyways. The only way i will buy a gibson is if i find a 'cheap' Gibson Black Beauty (3 humbuckers, Black , Gold Hardware, Mother of Pearl inlays). (Currently $£3,600,000 from musicians Friend/Amazon)
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Post by ChrisK on Sept 18, 2006 20:24:54 GMT -5
I'm not impressed with Gib$on. The only one that I own is an SG faded.
If cost is an issue, don't overlook the PRS SE series. They street for about $400 to $500 and are great for the money.
Yeah, Gib$ons increase in value today. What makes anyone think that there is another wave of baby boomers coming along that are deeply interested in the toys of OUR youth?
I gave away guitars in the late 60's because they were crap. I see similar such hanging on the wall at GC offered for thousands.
They're still crap.
Anything worth doing, is worth doing well.
Anything worth buying, is worth buying well.
Nice usually is expensive......
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Post by UnklMickey on Sept 18, 2006 20:40:04 GMT -5
...Nice usually is expensive...... ..............and expensive is sometimes........
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