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Post by whynot on May 2, 2006 15:12:50 GMT -5
i rebuilt a lespaule but i need the mesurments for seting up the bridge i nead the hight and the position of those little block thingys
thanks
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Post by sumgai on May 2, 2006 23:51:37 GMT -5
Every Les Paul I've ever seen is cast in concrete - you can't adjust anything but the height of the entire bridge, and the intonation. Setting the intonation is not what you asked, so I guess the answer to your question is "set the bridge as low as you can want the strings, but high enough so that they don't buzz when you fret them."
HTH
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Post by wolf on May 3, 2006 21:21:48 GMT -5
whynot Did you take the bridge apart? I once did that on a Yamaha SBG2000 but it is no big deal to get those 6 "blocks" in their proper positions.
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Post by whynot on May 4, 2006 0:28:32 GMT -5
well the wire fell off so all the blocs fell out i got them back in and founf evreyone but not i cant set them up and the hight of the block that holds them doesnot seem rite i cant get it to sound in tune
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Post by whynot on May 4, 2006 0:30:00 GMT -5
it looks like this the 1 with the o's is the blocks and the 1 bewlow is where the strigs start from
( 0 0 0 0 0 0 ) ( )
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Post by whynot on May 4, 2006 0:30:47 GMT -5
( 0 0 0 0 0 0 ) (_________)
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Post by wolf on May 5, 2006 0:14:54 GMT -5
The "blocks" should be of 3 different "height" pairs. The 2 highest are for the D & G strings, the next heighest are for the A & B strings and the lowest height blocks are for the high and low E strings.
I've tried to find a detailed photo of a Gibson guitar bridge but could not find a really sharp one. Perhaps you could do an image search of your own and you can see hot those blocks get placed.
Well, at least you know how to get the "heights" in the correct places.
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Post by whynot on May 5, 2006 18:22:16 GMT -5
u cant change the hight of the blocks just the hight of the bar tha holds them u have one nut at 1 end and another at the other the block just move back and forward
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Post by wolf on May 5, 2006 18:35:06 GMT -5
whynot I'm not saying you can change the height of the blocks. What I am saying is that if you have the bridge completely taken apart, and if you put the blocks back at random, the D&G strings might have the lowest heights and that would be very bad. Those blocks are of slightly (but significantly) different heights. Basically, these conform to the radius of the neck. Do you have a caliper or micrometer? Measure the height of each block and you'll see what I mean. Getting those blocks back in the correct order is very important.
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Post by wolf on May 5, 2006 19:20:45 GMT -5
Okay, rather than showing parentheses and zeroes, I decided to make a real drawing. Now if you have questions, everything might be better understood by everyone. ******************************************** What the heck, how about a top view? When seen from the top, the "blocks" are completely flat on one side and the other side slopes 45 degrees and then goes straight down. (The flat side is indicated by the yellow line.) If I have drawn this correctly (I hope), strings 6, 5 and 4 should have this flat side facing towards the tail piece or string ends. For strings 3, 2 and 1 the flat side should face the "playing ends" of the strings. If I'm wrong about any of this, just let me know.
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Post by whynot on May 8, 2006 14:16:24 GMT -5
still cant get it sounden good never sounds in tune what ever i do any other advice on what could be causing this
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Post by ChrisK on May 8, 2006 17:11:23 GMT -5
If you have assembled it correctly, have you set the intonation correctly?
If you're concerned that you haven't assembled it correctly, go to a music store and do some research (look at an LP).
And, please use capitalization, commas, and periods. There is also a free spell checker available on this site. Word soup, while currently "sick" and widely afoot among the young, tends to annoy in advance those that have made the effort to write well (and who have the answers that you seek).
This is NOT an attempt to offend you, but some life advice. How you speak and write determines how you're perceived, and most often, what opportunity is, or is NOT, offered to you. Opportunities un-offered are opportunities unaware.
You are how you say you are.
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Post by wolf on May 9, 2006 0:26:38 GMT -5
Interesting response ChrisK. Considering I drew those 2 diagrams from scratch and all I got was a one sentence reply, I think a modicum of thanks would be in order from whynot don't you think? whynot, the bridge on a Les Paul is roughly similar to what I have drawn. How does this compare to what you have reassembled? Please reply with a detailed explanation.
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Post by whynot on May 9, 2006 0:27:42 GMT -5
i cant see anything wrong with the setup and i am dislecic so thats my excuse for badd spelling
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Post by whynot on May 9, 2006 0:40:37 GMT -5
and sorry i thort i put thanks in there loads goin on here at the moment sorting out my holaday work ect but anyway thanks loads and loads this is what i have and its the same color aswell www.gruhn.com/features/58lespaul/EB5737br.jpg
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Post by wolf on May 9, 2006 21:36:41 GMT -5
whynot I'm guessing you have the bridge reassembled and mounted on the guitar. Does it look something like that picture? (Basically, are those "blocks" on your guitar bridge in the approximate positions as shown in the picture?) Have you made at least a crude attempt at setting the intonation?
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Post by whynot on May 11, 2006 0:26:36 GMT -5
i coppyed that pic im trying to get it nere soundin on so i can fine tune it with a tuner but i cant eveb get cose to the sound it should be
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Post by mcw on Aug 15, 2006 11:45:31 GMT -5
Hey, Wolf. I appreciated your drawings. That was pretty damn good of you to sketch those up in an attempt to help the guy. I've notice there are a lot of helpful members on this forum.
And I couldn't agree with you more ChrisK.
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Post by mcw on Aug 15, 2006 11:47:36 GMT -5
I just notice my word got rubbed out. I could have spelled it dam, but then someone might think I was a bad speller, too.
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Post by twostring on Dec 14, 2006 17:52:01 GMT -5
Wolf, Your CAD drawing shows a crown in the location of the saddles indicating a corresponding crown on the fretboard--sort of like a violin's fretboard. It got me thinking... on a bowed instrument like a violin, the crown is there so you can play one string at a time with the bow. While it doesn't need to be there for that reason on a guitar there is another benefit: With a crowned fretboard, you can finger strings that are closer together with fatter fingers. The neck can be made more slender. I don't think you would be comfortable with a guitar neck as narrow as a violin neck and a violin only has 4 strings, but its an intriguing thought.
You all probably knew that, but there's one of those imaginary idea light bulbs above my head at the moment.
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Post by ChrisK on Dec 14, 2006 20:24:00 GMT -5
It's a built-in "feature" of Proboards. Try spelling it "darnn".
unk knows some real neat tricks, but we'all are a tryin to keep him from a teachin folks to swear 'n cuss. ;D
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