You gotta see this!

[Ripper]

While doing a little surfing online, I came across this picture.
Look close...
He attatched his strings right to the trem springs!



Has anyone out there in GN2 land done such a thing?

[tacobobbo]

Aint that one of them spring reverb thingies?
Bob

[johan]

I'm not so sure,

It might be he used old string ends + some diy metal hooks to lengthen the tremelo springs. Attaching your tremelo to the strings would be crazy: too much tension on the string and when you break one you go out of tune like never before.

any info came with this pic?

[jepperoo]

The D string is not "spring attached"?...did he miss that one?
and the little E looks like it is going in the hole for the spring...
..or maybe, it simply broke, and it just appears this way.
--the price you pay for doing something so insane!
He MUST have some extra axes hanging around to try this mod.
...I wonder what happens or what effect he gets when he attempts to use his vibrato bar?
I've tensioned the springs on one of my guitars to get the springs to resonate
at a certain frequency...(D)..I believe some of the notes I freted, sounded more stronger,
with more sustain....or am I as insane as this guy?

[dd842]

jepperoo said:

...I wonder what happens or what effect he gets when he attempts to use his vibrato bar?

Hey, jepperoo! Welcome to GN2!

You have just reminded me that I have some related questions for the forum:

What if you have a strat with three springs being used, but no vibrato bar being used (it has been removed) - do you need springs if you are not using the vibrato bar?

Would taking the springs off make any difference (better or worse)? Specifically, would the guitar's ability to stay in tune improve or suffer?

I am doing a quick shielding job on my friend's Squier strat, and I am wondering if I am doing him more of a favor by leaving the springs alone, or by removing them.

Anyone have any advice?

Thanks,
Dan

[vonFrenchie]

dd842 said:

What if you have a strat with three springs being used, but no vibrato bar being used (it has been removed) - do you need springs if you are not using the vibrato bar?

Would taking the springs off make any difference (better or worse)? Specifically, would the guitar's ability to stay in tune improve or suffer?

I am doing a quick shielding job on my friend's Squier strat, and I am wondering if I am doing him more of a favor by leaving the springs alone, or by removing them.

The springs keep the bridge in place when you arent using the vibrato. Taking them off (I've done this before) will pull the bridge up about a half to three quarters of an inch. It will mess up the notation and it will make the guitar harder to play. Also seeing as it moves the bridge it will make it harder to tune and will not stay in tune as long.

Look at it this way. There is a teeter-totter. On one end is a spring connected to the ground, the other is a string connected to the ground. You have to wind the string up to make the teeter totter level. If you take the spring out the string will pull the teeter-totter to the ground.

If you want to remove the springs (or just turn it into a fixed bridge) temporarily, or for however long you forget about it, you can "block" the bridge (I think thats what it is called) with one of these dohickeys.
www.tremconverter.com/
It acts as the spring in the equation... but doesnt stretch if you dont want it to.

[dd842]

vonfrenchie said:

..... Look at it this way. There is a teeter-totter. On one end is a spring connected to the ground, the other is a string connected to the ground. You have to wind the string up to make the teeter totter level. If you take the spring out the string will pull the teeter-totter to the ground.

If you want to remove the springs (or just turn it into a fixed bridge) temporarily, or for however long you forget about it, you can "block" the bridge (I think thats what it is called) with one of these dohickeys.
www.tremconverter.com/
It acts as the spring in the equation... but doesnt stretch if you dont want it to.

Thanks, vf

The teeter-totter analogy was a very good one - I like analogies that enable me to quickly "get it"!

Cool dohickey too - I had never seen one before.

So I'll leave her be then! (seeing as it's not my guitar)

Thanks again,
Dan

[ChrisK]

Has anyone out there in GN2 land done such a thing?

Not and admitted it.

You either have to use the springs or a vibrato block.

Taking the springs out will remove the "reverb".

Additionally, since the vintage 6 screw vibrato's aren't stable for pitch up bends anyway, the springs are usually adjusted for the vibrato plate to contact the body. In this case, the arm can be removed (or just not used) without any issues.

[jepperoo]

On my main work-horse axe, I attached all the springs, tightened the claw all the way up,
and fabricated some wood blocks, (one for behind the trem anchor, one for the front, and some smaller ones to fit the top and bottom).
Then tightened all the six screws down as far as they will go... the end result ...
my axe was louder, (without it being pluged in!), it has more sustain, and bending
a string, without the others going FLAT, is wonderfull.
Now , I just need to replace my neck. I'm tired of this one, its beat-up, and if I'm putting money in it, I'm just gonna buy a whole new neck.
I'm interested in Warmoth, but I gotta save some $$$ for that.
Unless some of yall know where good ones are for cheaper--I'm sick of 21 frets!

[dunkelfalke]

i just have used a rockinger blackbox. more sustain, better bending and still all the fun of a free floating vibrato.

[Ripper]

johan...Nope, no explaination as to why this guy did this to his poor defenceless guitar!