clr
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Nov 29, 2007 20:52:50 GMT -5
Post by clr on Nov 29, 2007 20:52:50 GMT -5
So... How would you guys clean the accidental glue that gets on the guitar body
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Nov 29, 2007 22:36:50 GMT -5
Post by sumgai on Nov 29, 2007 22:36:50 GMT -5
clr,
Depends. What kind of accidental glue?
sumgai
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Nov 30, 2007 0:39:22 GMT -5
Post by clr on Nov 30, 2007 0:39:22 GMT -5
The spray on adhesive in "shielding the beast"
I used "Elmers Spray Adhesive"
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Nov 30, 2007 3:44:29 GMT -5
Post by sumgai on Nov 30, 2007 3:44:29 GMT -5
clr, This would be a classic example of what we in the trade call a Romper Room No-No. I needn't tell you now, but for the next guy contemplating the job, a bit of masking tape and newspaper goes a long ways towards eliminating this kind of complaint. Hmmm, let me think here..... Elmers, elmers, elmers....... <g(#i)@z$*%a> Ah, here we are: Try some stuff called DK5, it's a special solvent for spray-on adhesives. You can find it at most fabric stores and the like. It's made for removing adhesive residue from materials that have been temporarily (or permanently) glued, prior to sewing. (The glue keeps things lined up correctly as you move the work through the machine - no more worries about pieces shifting out of place.) OK, there's another piece to the puzzle. Is this overspray out in the visible area of the axe? If not, then simply cover it with paper, and put the pickguard back in place. If it is visible, then the one thing you don't wanna do is apply anything stronger than lighter fluid. That might work, or it might not, it all depends. Ditto for WD-40, Goof Off, Goop, and other products of that ilk. I can just about guarantee you that if you use Tolulene (toluol), acetone (xylene), or any other solvent of this nature, the finish on your rig is gonna go up in smoke (figuratively, not for real). If it's a polyester finish, then paint thinner might do the trick, but that's not a certainty - try it first in a hidden area. If you've got a nitrocellulose finish, then I'm sure you can guess what thinner will do to that....... I have found that sometimes it takes a combination of the lightweight solvents to get all the crud up off the finish. (Hey, I always mask off, but sometimes I have to clean other people's messes, ya know.) But that DK5 almost always gets it done, and seems to never harm the finish. Good stuff. HTH sumgai
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Dec 3, 2007 20:52:56 GMT -5
Post by pollyshero on Dec 3, 2007 20:52:56 GMT -5
Goo-Gone (no, really), any light machine oil (3-in-One, Magical Mystery Oil [MMO]), peanut butter, naptha, etc...
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Dec 4, 2007 1:10:27 GMT -5
Post by sumgai on Dec 4, 2007 1:10:27 GMT -5
Naptha? Not on a lacquer finish! Perhaps on a poly finish, but I'm not gonna be the first kid on my block to try it! (Remember, I have only the one axe, and if I spoil it....... ) Now peanut butter, that's a different story! I've used that before, on pine tar (pitch), and it worked. I'm 99.9999999% sure it won't harm any finish, so yeah, give that a shot. But not the crunchy kind, that may act like an abrasive. Didn't I mention Goo-Gone? Guess not. (Goo- this, goo- that, what the hey. ) Same admonitions apply, it's a mild solvent - apply to a hidden test area first. HTH sumgai
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Dec 4, 2007 19:51:17 GMT -5
Post by pollyshero on Dec 4, 2007 19:51:17 GMT -5
You can use naptha (lighter fluid) SPARINGLY on just about any finish without damaging it. Work fast on small areas, clean up well with a water damened cloth and then buff with a dry cloth. Don't let it sit. Not recommended for the faint of heart or easily distracted.
I included naptha in my list because I figured anyone who'd spray glue on their finish to begin with probably wasn't working with a vintage/otherwise high-dollar instrument.
Also a self-correction: MMO is MARVEL Mystery Oil.
PH
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Dec 5, 2007 4:06:00 GMT -5
Post by sumgai on Dec 5, 2007 4:06:00 GMT -5
Underdog, Is MMO really a solvent, or at least, enough of a solvent for this kind of thing? I didn't know, haven't ever thought to use it for this kind of thing........ If that were to be the case, then it seems to me that 3-n-1 sewing machine oil might also be of some benefit here........ sumgai
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Dec 5, 2007 20:40:54 GMT -5
Post by pollyshero on Dec 5, 2007 20:40:54 GMT -5
...any light machine oil ( 3-in-One, Magical Mystery Oil [MMO]), peanut butter, naptha, etc... As effective as any of the above except naptha. I'm not a chemist, but in my layman's understanding of how chemical adhesives work - the "tack" or adhesive property relies in part on how fast and how much the base evaporates. Spray adhesives (in my mind) are oil-based, so when I need to dissolve some I use oil to overcome the base. Of course I've used everything my imagination told me might work and had some success, and some bad experiences as well. YES - naptha will dissolve a lacquer finish if used improperly and is best avoided on cherished instruments regardless of finish if you don't have plenty of experience, the heart of a lion, and money falling out of your ears. CLR: If I could take back my first post, I'd advise a graduated approach: all solvents, including the edible one should be used sparingly - a DAMPENED soft cotton cloth, with a water moistened cloth or sponge for "rinsing" and a soft dry cloth for immediate drying. Start with peanut butter (yes, I know it sounds nuts but you'd be surprised how well it works on some adhesives). If that didn't work, move up to 3-in-1 or another light bodied machine oil (I use MMO because I always have some on hand - I use it exclusively for my guns). I'd use naptha as a LAST resort & I'd be careful - first testing on an inconspicous (sic?) place as Sumgai advises. Bottom line - being oil or chemically based, the adhesive must come off or IT may damage the finish. If it doesn't damage the actual finish it will collect dust, dirt and grime and look like butt. OR if you don't really mind, you could leave it and rub your fingers to get them sticky so you wouldn't lose your pick (who remembers "Gorilla Snot"?)
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Dec 6, 2007 6:50:55 GMT -5
Post by andy on Dec 6, 2007 6:50:55 GMT -5
Start with peanut butter (yes, I know it sounds nuts but you'd be surprised how well it works on some adhesives). Pun intended???
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Dec 22, 2007 23:46:56 GMT -5
Post by clr on Dec 22, 2007 23:46:56 GMT -5
weird, I'm eating a PB sandwich right now. I'll be sure to try that first.
-Edit Proven. Peanut butter DOES work on Elmers Spray adhesive.
Awesome!
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