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Post by DarKnight on Apr 4, 2007 11:07:40 GMT -5
( EDIT: moved to Pickups by sumgai) Just wondering my coming axe-project for summer... Had thoughts about going 7-string... mostly cos I found rather cheap 7-stringer and would like to use that as basis... Would take neck and bridge from that... locking nut and then converting floyd rose-licensed trem to hardtail.. actually cutting metal and removing inertia block... mounting with screws to the body... so anyhow I could get my hands on some inexpensive but good humbuckers... only for 6-strings... and sevens are rather "expensive" so I had thoughts about going over the top (again)...  So I'll suggest that standard 6-string bucker is too narrow.. so how about widening it a bit... by putting the coils slightly offset.. like this...  Would it work? Somewhat similar to those bass humbuckers in eg. p-bass... Not sure how easy that offset is to make... Just wondering... ;D Cheers Dark |
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benjy304
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Post by benjy304 on Apr 4, 2007 18:52:49 GMT -5
The high E and low B strings would only have one polepiece under them. That might be a problem.
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Post by sumgai on Apr 4, 2007 21:14:30 GMT -5
Dark, There'd be no problem with your idea, so long as you don't split the coils, then try to use the 'non-existant' pole piece to produce a tone. Small limitation, if you do use split or tapped arrangements. If you stick to humbucker only, you'll be fine. BTW, nice drawing. sumgai |
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Post by DarKnight on Apr 5, 2007 5:02:56 GMT -5
Okay...  Things seem fine... Split mode is obivously possible with two bucker combination... anyhow coil moving would be the one without adjustable poles... so using split options would cover all the strings in that case... I'll prolly give that a try... Thanks! Dark |
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Post by DarKnight on Apr 6, 2007 2:59:56 GMT -5
Hmm... Would it work if I'd "expand" the poles... like using metal rod on the top of the poles or something? Would it be like those pups with metal rail... Could it somehow compensate the lack of one pole over B and high e? Or just mess up everything... ;D
Dark
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Post by sumgai on Apr 7, 2007 1:36:24 GMT -5
DarK, If it were beneficial to top-mount a piece of metal, or even another magnet of some sort, I should think that everyone and his brother would have done it by now. I think the big drawback would be the magnetic field being too close to the strings, and drawing them out of tune. This condition was named by Chris Kinman as "Strat-itis".  sumgai |
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Post by DarKnight on Apr 7, 2007 4:29:06 GMT -5
Good point... ;D Maybe I'll just buy 7-string pups... It would be a whole lot easier... Gosh I also need to build an experimenting-axe! It is bit risky to try all silly stuff to your next main instrument... especially when building almost from scratch... Screwing up is not an option... Well few times it is, but hopefully nothing serious... Cheers Dark |
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Post by RandomHero on Apr 7, 2007 7:48:29 GMT -5
Good baseline 7-string chassis for mods = Ibanez RG7321
Good 7-string pups = Dimarzio Blaze original, neck/bridge set
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Post by DarKnight on Apr 7, 2007 8:03:27 GMT -5
My thoughts were Harley Benton HBR7 as basis... I know the reputation of HB, but I've heard that this model is indeed very playable... And shop I'm buying it from (Thomann) has finnish staff, so I'll drop them a line to check that neck isn't warped... I was too going for Dimarzio Blaze(bridge) in the bridge, Air Norton(neck) in the middle (YES three buckers!) and maybe D Sonic(bridge) in the neck position... Maybe that... But that may change few times before final setup... Dark |
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Post by setain on Apr 20, 2007 22:52:40 GMT -5
If it were beneficial to top-mount a piece of metal, or even another magnet of some sort, I should think that everyone and his brother would have done it by now. I think the big drawback would be the magnetic field being too close to the strings, and drawing them out of tune. This condition was named by Chris Kinman as "Strat-itis". sumgai What if the pickup was mounted lower than usual in the pickguard? Would it still cause more pull than a pickup normally does? |
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Post by DarKnight on Apr 21, 2007 16:21:20 GMT -5
Prolly not, but the sound would be A LOT muddier? Just guessing?
Dark
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Post by sumgai on Apr 21, 2007 17:18:00 GMT -5
setain,
Hey, we're all Nutz here...... why don't you try it and let us know what you find? ;D
sumgai
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Post by JohnH on Apr 21, 2007 18:05:25 GMT -5
Short of getting proper 7 string pups, I reckon the first staggered idea is the best. Then lower the pups slightly, and glue a small steel object (the size of a nut or similar) on top of the outer poles, the ones for which there is only one of the two coils active. That will bring those outer ones, which are acting singly, magnetically a bit closer to equalize output.
hey..thats not bad! (pre morning coffee too!)
John
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Post by karrde on May 5, 2007 8:13:52 GMT -5
making humbuckers out of some single coil 7 string pickups?
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Post by michaelcbell on May 5, 2007 9:21:37 GMT -5
Karrde, I'm not sure what you're asking...
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So I'll suggest that standard 6-string bucker is too narrow.. so how about widening it a bit... by putting the coils slightly offset.. like this... 
Things seem fine... Split mode is obivously possible with two bucker combination... anyhow coil moving would be the one without adjustable poles... so using split options would cover all the strings in that case... I'll prolly give that a try... 
