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Post by Ripper on Feb 13, 2006 14:27:38 GMT -5
While im here im posing a question that was asked of me at work. I said id bring it to you guys and find out. Does Gibson make the[glow=red,2,300] Les Paul custom [/glow]anymore?
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Post by RJB on Feb 13, 2006 15:17:37 GMT -5
I don't remember a Custom listed for a while. they may have renamed it to the Standard Premium (+) or the Supreme.
Just my guess.
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Post by Ripper on Feb 13, 2006 15:24:43 GMT -5
Hey RJB...I dont recall seeing any in the music stores either. Its too bad, they were a nice guitar.
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Post by JohnH on Feb 13, 2006 17:00:34 GMT -5
How is a Custom different to a Standard? J
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Post by jdl on Feb 13, 2006 19:25:41 GMT -5
Hey; Just checked the Gibson site, it looks like they discontinued a model called the Custom Plus in 1998. Not sure if this is the custom you were thinking about. If you go to gibson.com, and go to the electric guitar section they have a page with all the discontinued models back to 1997, the pages are still active so you can look at the specs for older models.
Hope this is useful; James
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Post by mlrpa on Feb 22, 2006 20:31:10 GMT -5
No, Gibson hasn't discontinued the Custom. It's still the same beast that Les Paul envisioned in 56. The difference between the standard and the custom is primarily the fretboard. Ebony vrs Rosewood, Large square Mother of Pearl inlays starting at the 1st fret instead of Tapazoids at the 3rd. A double bound body, binding on front and back, and a bound headstock. (Originally, it was to be solid carved mahogany, but, that never happened.) Only problem with Gibson these days, are the neck at the headstock. I recently did a repair job on a painted Paul, and under the neck paint, were the valute is, is this piece of mismatched wood used to "strenghten" the joint. WHAT A BLEEPING JOKE! There was more epoxy then wood there, and you would think that they would use a wood that at least looked like mahogany, right? Ha! These three pieces of mismatched blonde wood that looked like someone who never worked on a guitar before, and failed shop class, did it. It's a sad day that I, who would play NOTHING but Gibson, would not even pick one up, and think about owning one. It's even more sad, that SAM ASH 3 years ago told the Gibson execs that either the prices go down and quality goes up, or SAM ASH would not carry them any more. Well, I've been to 3 Sam Ashes, and none of them carry NEW Gibsons.
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Post by Ripper on Feb 22, 2006 20:42:28 GMT -5
WOW... Mirpa I was shocked to read that about a Gibson and what Sam Ash said to the big wigs. Up here in Canada a new Les Paul standard with nice flaming costs close to $3000. I have seen them over $5k as well. Do they at Gibson not understand what they have? the legacy, the tradition? Its an eye opener for sure.
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Post by UnklMickey on Feb 22, 2006 21:46:08 GMT -5
i don't know how accurate it is, but the information i found in an on-line blue-book indicates: - Les Paul Custom was made from '54 ~ '60
- Les Paul Custom (SG body) was made from '61 ~ '63
- Les Paul Custom ('68 re-issue) was made in '68 only
- Les Paul Custom ('69 re-issue) was made in from '69 ~ *
(currently still in production as of '99)
- Les Paul Custom Plus, Les Paul Custom Premium Plus, and Les Paul Custom Lite, were all discontinued in the nineties .
- Les Paul Custom Reissue '54 was made in from '72 ~ '77
- Les Paul Custom Twentieth Anniversary was made in '74 only
- Les Paul Custom Thiry-Fifth Anniversary was made in '89 only
so in a very narrow sense, it looks like the "real" LPC was discontinued in '60. but in a wider sense the '69 re-issue or a newer re-issue may still be available. for whatever any of that is worth.
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Post by Runewalker on Feb 22, 2006 22:50:04 GMT -5
For those of us who slathered and dreamed of the "Black Beauty" "Fretless Wonder" premium LesPaul of the sixties, it was Gibson's flagship model. Glitzy, gold hardware, ebony fretboard, factory fret dressed to low-fret height fast fast action it beconed to you that the high price hooker she was. There were issues with all that glitz. Hard dressed frets wore out more rapidly, and facilitated rapid onset of string buzz. The gold plating wore off pretty fast. Then some started noticing and preferring the Standard's tone. But man did she call to you when she was new. Here's a little hx. www.provide.net/~cfh/lpcus.html
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Post by erikh on Feb 23, 2006 8:51:13 GMT -5
Yes, Gibson still makes the Custom. www.gibsoncustom.comIt's just a Custom Shop guitar and not a regular production line model like the Standard. mlrpa, was the LP you repaired a Standard or a Custom? Some Customs have/had a maple neck on them. Norlin era LP's with maple necks were pretty much the norm too. I'd love a Custom, but I'm not about to shell out $3,000 for one either.
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Post by mlrpa on Feb 27, 2006 22:46:36 GMT -5
The LP was a 96 Studio plus or some such nonesense. The 87 SG Elite I just picked up does not have that hidious volute. Some of the Customs of the mid 70's had a maple neck, like the one Frampton played, and the mahogany body had a bunch of hole in it. (Swiss cheese effect it's known as!) You would never notice it, other than it being a pound or two lighter. Also the Zak Wylde is a custom with a maple neck. I love the old Customs! I have always thought they were the sexiest guitar ever made! ("Mmmmmmm Alpine white with gold hardware....ummmmmgggrrrr!" to quote Homer) What ever happened to the old days, where you had 2 models of the Paul, the SG, and the Strat and 3 models of the Tele? How many models of the Paul are there now? 40?
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Post by UnklMickey on Feb 27, 2006 23:19:56 GMT -5
The LP was a 96 Studio plus or some such nonesense.... Some of the Customs of the mid 70's had a maple neck, like the one Frampton played, and the mahogany body had a bunch of hole in it. (Swiss cheese effect it's known as!) You would never notice it, other than it being a pound or two lighter. ... gee, would that make those swiss cheesed Customs: "LP Custom Minus"?
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