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Post by vonFrenchie on Jun 28, 2006 23:50:09 GMT -5
Im looking for an awesome bass amp that would work great with guitars to. I wouldnt mind having a head or a combo. Im saying a 450-460 dollar limit. Heads have a $380 limit (I'd buy a 600Watt Behringer BB210 Cab which is 180 bucks) I just need one amp to play guitar and bass. I also need it to be loud enough to play gigs with (loud... loud gigs). I dont care for effects. My SWR LA10 has no effect on it and I love it... its just not loud enough.
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Post by sumgai on Jun 30, 2006 2:27:00 GMT -5
vF,
I've always been a fan of Fender Bassman amps, right? So instead of one of their student models of late, how about a slightly older BXR model, one with either 150 or 300 watts? Not a tube monster, but you didn't make that requirement upfront, so I'm giving you a relatively inexpensive SS possibility. A bit heavy, usually comes with casters, but also has a graphic eq set on the control panel, so you should be able to dial in an acceptable tone.
Probably won't knock down the City Hall from where you live/rehearse, but it will fluff the pillows on the next-door neighbor's bed! Use stomp-boxes to suit, and life should be good! ;D
sumgai
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Post by pollyshero on Jun 30, 2006 22:49:38 GMT -5
The age old dream - a killer bass/guitar do-it-all amp...
The problem with using bass amps for guitar is they tend to be a bit too clean. The problem with using guitar amps for bass is they tend to be a bit too dirty.
Speaking as a guitar playing bass player (or a bass playing guitar player) who's been looking for just such a combo for nearly 30 years... I've been better off with two amps.
As sumgai says, a Bassman is worth a look, but I personally wouldn't pay for anything built after 1970. So much for your price range...
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Post by Mini-Strat_Maine on Jul 1, 2006 11:09:52 GMT -5
The age old dream - a killer bass/guitar do-it-all amp... The problem with using bass amps for guitar is they tend to be a bit too clean. The problem with using guitar amps for bass is they tend to be a bit too dirty. Speaking as a guitar playing bass player (or a bass playing guitar player) who's been looking for just such a combo for nearly 30 years... I've been better off with two amps. As sumgai says, a Bassman is worth a look, but I personally wouldn't pay for anything built after 1970. So much for your price range... Doing research before buying my Musicmaster Bass amp via an eBay deal, I saw that most of the reviewers were happy with theirs. Something else I noticed was that more than one reviewer said the MM wasn't all that great as a bass amp, but made a pretty good guitar amp. So I'll use mine for guitar, maybe with some mods. (Which might make it even better for guitar, but less desirable for bass. Then again, I might decide to become a bass-playing guitar player, too. )
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Post by ux4484 on Jul 1, 2006 14:17:04 GMT -5
I agree with PH, two amps is how I do it most of the time, as I try to be nice to my neighbors. But, if you have two practice amps, you'll probably end up with a third amp for blowing your windows out now and then. I use my practice amps most of the time. Bass amp is a Crate BX-15, it's given me 14 years of excellent service (but it has no real excitement in it). Over the last few years as I've gone mostly guitar, the BX became verrry boring with a six string. Even effects boxes into the BX are a tad lackluster, it's just too clean of an amp. I picked up a Fender Bullet 150 recently, for daily use, it fills the bill very well. It's not tube, but the effects built in make me use my Digitech much less than I was with the BX. Back in the Band days, I used a Wilder amp, but I sold that for tuition money after we disbanded. My "real" amp is in storage in the gargage just now while we remodel the basement. It's a Knight Electronics Tube PA system (6L6, 50 watts), with an Allied electronics bottom (2 x 12" Jensens). Of all the amps I've used over the years, it's still my favorite, and sounds great with guitar or bass. It's funny for me to see talk of 100 and more watts in an amp, because 50 Watts pisses the neighbors plenty (even with the windows closed). Heck, 15 watts makes them grumpy sometimes .
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Post by dunkelfalke on Jul 1, 2006 15:41:45 GMT -5
hmm, a multieffect which can do both (korg pandora maybe) and a poweramp with a stage monitor?
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 1, 2006 16:52:18 GMT -5
I'm diggin the Bassman idea. I dont care so much about Tube vs. Solid State. The only unfortunate thing is... NO BASSMAN BXR's ON EBAY!
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Post by sumgai on Jul 2, 2006 20:05:37 GMT -5
vF, Kinda speaks to their popularity, and how folks don't want to let them go, eh? Howzabout craigslist dot org, for your area? And PH is correct, as in all things in life, a single amp for two divergent purposes is a compromise, there's no avoiding that. But we do what we must, with the money we have (or with the plastic we shouldn't have! ), and keep putting one finger down after another, until we've covered all the frets. ;D sumgai
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Post by vonFrenchie on Jul 8, 2006 14:40:29 GMT -5
No on the craigslist either. I live in east central wisconsin and I checked up and down the state.... nothin. Crazy wisconsin.
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Post by ux4484 on Jul 21, 2006 9:30:07 GMT -5
I'm diggin the Bassman idea. I dont care so much about Tube vs. Solid State. The only unfortunate thing is... NO BASSMAN BXR's ON EBAY! You may want to take another look on ebay, a few BXR's are listed when I looked today.
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Post by bard2dbone on Aug 28, 2006 18:16:38 GMT -5
Definitely go with two different amps. I am a bass player who plays 'at' guitar. I write on guitar more than on keys, but I never perform on keys.
When I had need of both types of amp (alternating guitar and bass, or playing a Chapman Stick) I really liked the simplicity of having two Gallien-Krueger amps. For the bass, or bass side of the Stick: I had a GK MB150. For the guitar, and the melody side of the Stick, it was a GK 250ML.
Both amps were very small and light. It was very nice to be able to carry my whole set-up in in one trip.
I still have the MB150. It's my bass practice amp now. It's about 14" square
The guitar amp was about the size of a shoebox. With built in chorus as I recall. It was really advanced for the era when it was built. I think mine was from about 1986.
edit: I just went and looked because I wasn't confident in my memory. The lunchbox sized guitar amp was in fact a 250ML. They don't make it any more but it was a 100 Watt stereo into a pair of 6" speakers, with built in chorus, echo and a useless distortion. I never used the built in fuzz. I used a Tech21 XXL pedal and it was awesome. For higher volume situations the internal speakers were insufficient. But you could drive a 4x12 cab and scare the neighbors with the volume from the aux jack in back. And when we did that it sounded good. I think it was probably the best solid state guitar amp ever.
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