CS-3 noise....

[pab]

can someone tell me how can I eliminate noise coming from this pedal CS-3?

My chain is this way:

Guitar- Boss CS-3- METAL ZONE- Boss Tremolo- Boss Super CHorus-MArshall 100DFX amp... All this stuff is in a powered BOSS box

When I play clean no problem with CS-3, sound is awesome, but when I use it with Metal Zone pedal to get some distorsion, my god, big noise appears that I could not play anymore, it piss me off...

whats the problem? How could I solve this? IS BOSS NS-2 a solution?
Thank for your help...

[Ripper]

Would putting the Tremelo & Chorus in the effects loop instead of at the front end help quiet it down?...perhaps a noise gate?

[pab]

I have tried in many different ways and all the configs is the almost the same thing...

Wat do you mean noise gate???

The feedback or um apeears only when I dont touch strings...

[Ripper]

Hey Pab... I noisegate gets rid of unwanted noise. I believe you set the threshold. Im not sure. I confess I have never had one, but bandmates of mine have used them in the past.
It sounds to me like a grounding problem to me if you say that it only happens when you dont touch the strings.

[pab]

It sounds to me like a grounding problem to me if you say that it only happens when you dont touch the strings.[/quote]


What you suggest me to do?
Ground problem coming from where?

Thank you

[bam]

Grounding problem seems unlikely in this case. I think it's more cause by the nature of a compressor unit.

Principles of sound compression : signal is amplified and the peaks are cut off.
thus : noises are also amplified.
solution : never put that sustain knob to max unless your guitar is REALLY REALLY noiseless.
.. I found that in 1 o'clock it does just fine.

[GuitarTechCraig]

I've been using a CS-3 for a gazillion years. Lately, I've also been trying more high gain distortion pedals than I used to use.

The Metal Zone probably has its own compression circuit. I found this to be true with a Marshall Jackhammer and a Digitech "Metal" pedal I tried (forget which one). The result was an INCREDIBLE amount of noise. Compressor after compressor = super-amplified noise.

My suggestion? Get a Line6 Uber Metal with built in noise gate or ditch the CS-3. I went the Line6 route and it works fine with an acceptable noise level.

[GuitarTechCraig]

"there IS also another fix : put that CS3 AFTER the metalzone.
Alters your tone, though."

Aaahhhh...NEVER. Talk about noise! The compressor will attempt to keep every bit of signal at the same volume level, unless the signal is very, very weak. Even a Cry Baby produces enough noise to make a simple CS-3 want to amplify it to be as loud as your guitar normally is. Putting the CS-3 after the MetalZone would guarantee that the noise produced by the MetalZone would be as loud as your guitar.

For all practical electric guitar purposes, the CS-3 should always be the first effect your guitar plugs into. The only exception is a vintage Cry Baby which doesn't like to follow a compressor, but you'll still be dealing with added noise placing it before a compressor. I only recommend the CS-3 being first in ALL guitar rigs.

[bam]

you're right. i've deleted the post. ::blush::

[mike]

Try unplugging the Metal Zone and powering it with a battery. If no better, put a battery in the CS-3 too. I'm not saying it will work for you, but I have had success making high gain pedals quiet that way.

[schmuck]

Try find a better compressor. Compressors are finicky little beasts and the newer Boss units ARE extremely noise at high threshold and attack settings - or since it sounds like to like to use loads of signal boost, try to LIMIT the compressor and rely on your metal zone to push the sound through

[koko276]

I have the same problem with mine, however I talked to a guy who says he can mod it to eliminate 75% of that noise. Ill let you know how it works out when I get it back.

[reeced]

koko276 said:

I have the same problem with mine, however I talked to a guy who says he can mod it to eliminate 75% of that noise. Ill let you know how it works out when I get it back.

I've done the "indy" mods to a CS3, and it does quieten it down a bit, but if you push the Sustain past 12'o'clock you're always going to get noise.

[koko276]

that is correct i got the mod done and it did quiet down considerably, 12 o'clock seems to be the threshold for noise returning.