Yes, I have to try...

[suicufnoc]

Anyone wan't to hel me find out if you really can get stuff ffor free? NO CREDIT CARD required. All you have to do is sign up, and do the ebay offer, which is registering an ebay account and bidding on an item. Just bid on something you won't win, like .01 for a PRS or something. As long as your the high bidder at one time, it counts. Then you never have to use the account again.

For anyone willing to try:
www.pvps4free.com/default.aspx?r=865155

And for anyone else: No, I'm not totally convinced it's real, but with no credit card, it can't really hurt.

[Ripper]

They say if it sounds too good to be true...it usually is.

Ill pass.

[michaelcbell]

I'm with deep.

[suicufnoc]

It's not really to good to be true, though. Even if it is a pyramid scheme. Only about 1 out of every 10 people can actually get the prize. Even less than that go through with the whole thing. They get paid by their sponsors for potential customers, and only maybe 5-10% finish the deal, so they still make money.

[sumgai]

Meditative One,

There are three kinds of advertising statements in this world: lies, damn lies, and statistics. I think you can guess which of those three you used in your reply to deep.

I'm afraid that as much as I don't wanna get all huffy on you, I'm gonna haffta remind you of our Terms Of Use policy, wherein "No member shall use this Forum as a resource for earning money from other members via any scheme or method whatsoever, with the sole exception of selling single items of interest that pertain the Forum's main topic, i.e. guitars, amps, accessories, etc."

By your very admission of "sponsors pay their downline for referrals", and then by asking others to sign up, you have fallen squarely into the pit which the above policy was written to prevent. The mere statements of "free", "no credit card", "all you have to do", "just do something", "not convinced", "it can't hurt to try", those all falls under the heading of the proverbial "come on" tactic. Any one of them raises a red flag for me, more than one at at time tells me to put my hand over my wallet, and run for all I'm worth.

While it is "too good to be true", it's also against the law more than a few states. Promoters of schemes like this think they can fly under the radar of a state's Attorney General, but that goes on only for so long, then a few AG's get interested, and eBay gets real cooperative in handing over names, etc. The promoter will get clipped eventually, you can take that to the bank. Whether or not you get anything out of the scheme before that happens, that's a matter of luck. I wouldn't lay odds with Jimmy the Greek on it, if I were you.

Bottom line here is, let's not do this again, OK? I'm leaving this thread unlocked for any additional comments, but I expect everyone to keep it civil. I'm not deleting it because it sets an example of what not to do here in the GuitarNutz House. I trust I've made the point clear, yes?

First time always gets a warning, not even a wrist slap. Second offenses get turned over to UnklMickey. And believe you me, you'd sooner shove cockleburrs up a wildcat's butt with a hot spoon in a closed phone booth!


sumgai


(EDIT: corrected a grammer error. )

[suicufnoc]

Sorry, I didn't realize it was again't the rules. As for the legality, I heard that you have to actually pay money to the company running the scheme for it to be illegal, But I won't argue that. But I still stand by my statistics. It's totally logical:
1. User signs up, and completes offer( ebay for ex.)
2. Ebay pays Free stuff company for the potential long-time customer.
3. User 1 refers 10 more users who do the same thing. Free stuff company gets more money.
4. ONLY user 1 gets free stuff.

With the small percentage of users that actually get 10 users to sign up under them, they can afford to give away something every once in a while.

Thats my belief, believe what you will, but I wasn't trying to decieve anyone. It won't happen again

[sumgai]

suicufnoc,

Understood, and apology accepted.

But to clarify, in the State of Washington, no money need actually change hands, merely the promise of some form of enrichment, at some point in the future. It needn't be money as cash, it can be some item that you would not otherwise come by (without buying it normally). That and the fact that there are referrals (even just one) are the two biggest red flags for the state's AG.

I could do another whole forum on just this topic, I know only too well how all these things operate. On second thought, I don't need to, there already is one. If'n yer innerested in how get-rich schemes like this are "outed", click on the following quote:

"Quatloos is the perfect place to start when faced with an investment proposal that sounds too good to be true"

sumgai

[gfxbss]

thanks for the ling SG. i remember talking to a guy about quixtar and i was very suspicious. then i found out that quixtar was formerly amway..... at any rate i know some people that are now involved despite what i have told them about quixtar. that quatloos may have the perfect info in getting them uninvolved.

Tyler