This idea was extensively discussed on the TDPRI forums for use in a Tele with a neck HB (4-wire) and a SC Tele bridge pickup. This utilizes the standard Strat "5-way" (errr, 3+2 . . .) switch in a way I had never seen done before.
The following wiring diagram was finalized by Deaf Eddie, whose website is posted on our links page:
I thought it was an interesting use of the standard switch to get at some interesting combinations. The description of the switch positions is a little confusing. In position "3", the neck humbucker has one coil in parallel with the bridge, and the second neck coil in series with both the bridge and the first neck coil.
BTW, since the bridge pickup is shunted to output, this requires a bridge pup with a separate "ground" wire (I know, Chris, I know . . .) Many Tele bridge pickups have a metal baseplate which forms the ground through the Tele bridge, and with those types, the jumper connecting the pickup to the baseplate must be cut, and a separate ground(errr, signal return . . .) run.
The combinations realized are actually as follows:
1. Neck series humbucker 2. Neck bottom coil, top coil and bridge coil shorted 3. Neck series humbucker with bridge in parallel with neck top coil 4. Neck top coil in parallel with bridge (hum hint), neck bottom coil shorted 5. Bridge coil
Now, if you have a Tele with a bridge humbucker, you get (flip the switch aboot Sparky):
1. Bridge series humbucker 2. Bridge bottom coil, bridge top coil and neck coil shorted 3. Bridge series humbucker with neck in parallel with bridge top coil 4. Bridge top coil in parallel with neck (hum hint), bridge bottom coil shorted 5. Neck coil
And for the Stratovarious among us:
1. Bridge and middle in series 2. Middle coil, bridge coil and neck coil shorted 3. Middle in series with (neck in parallel with bridge) 4. Bridge coil in parallel with neck (hum hint), middle coil shorted 5. Neck coil
Post by nickname009 on Mar 16, 2014 1:32:55 GMT -5
reviving an old post, I decided to go ahead with this wiring scheme as well on my warmoth build in reverse with a humbucker in the bridge and a single coil in the neck.
After finally completing the build I decided to give back and recorded a quick demo of the tones available from this wiring scheme. I'm playing a swamp ash warmoth tele with a fender noiseless pickup in the neck and a gibson 498T in the bridge.
Nickname hadn't posted before, although he and I exchanged a series of PMs on this build. I've been wanting someone to try this scheme out, so we can now say that it has been successfully built by one of our members (well, presumably Deaf Eddie built it as well, but we don't hear from him much).
Hi guys, I am newbie here and newbie to guitar wiring. I get to this thread from google, since i am going to build a SH tele with 5 way switch with 2 tone 1 volume. May i know the above schematic diagram works with 2 tone controls? if yes, where should i connect? And I suppose i need a 500k for the H a 250k pot for the S, but what capacitor? any suggestion? Thanks in advance~
A Strat-type guitar uses one half of the 5-way switch to switch the two tone controls. You can't do that here, because this scheme already uses the other half of the switch,so it is unavailable for tone control switching.
However, you can still use two tone controls with this scheme. Each tone control will be wired "across" its respective pickup, before the 5-way switch. For the HB, the black and green wires will be used for the tone control; the red and white wires will go straight to the switch just as the diagram shows now.
To wire the tone controls "across" the pickups, it's just like any LP or SG guitar. If you need a diagram, we can provide one, but it may be a few days.
As far as pots, and capacitor values, these are matters of personal preference. Certainly, 250K and 500K would be good compromises. With two tone controls, you can use different cap values for each pickup. For caps, .022µf would be a basic choice for the single coil, and .047µf would be a usual value for a HB.
I‘m new here, and am interested in trying this scheme. I have a nice CRL switch laying around and a Lace Alumitone splittable HB sized PU I would like to use with a Seymour Duncan Jerry Donahue in the bridge position.
Is the schematic still accessible anywhere? The upload from newey doesn’t work anymore and it’s a bit hard to re-engineer from the blurry photobucket placeholder.