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Post by proudpunk89 on Jan 14, 2009 2:36:38 GMT -5
This is what I'm going for.  I know what I need to do I know how to do it Are there any tips i could use before starting this project? Has anyone attempted this modification yet? |
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Post by newey on Jan 14, 2009 6:51:32 GMT -5
Proudpunk89-
Hello and welcome!
I haven't done this mod, so I don't have any particular tips for you. Generally, as with any mods, it's a good idea to check all your components with a multimeter for functionality before you wire anything up. And dry-check the physical fitment of the switches in the guitar first as well.
But it sounds like you're already on the right track.
We do have at least one member who has done this mod- Wolf. He pops in here from time to time, so if you run into trouble, he'll be around to assist. And so will the rest of us if you have questions.
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Post by ChrisK on Jan 14, 2009 21:27:23 GMT -5
What does this mod do?
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Post by proudpunk89 on Jan 14, 2009 23:13:40 GMT -5
This Mod replaces the 5 way selector switch with 5 toggle switches that enable 6 additional tone sounds based on pickups being in different series, and options to have certain combination's out of phase
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Post by wolf on Jan 17, 2009 15:21:53 GMT -5
Wow, I know I responded to this thread a few days ago but it seems as though my reply never got posted.
Anyway proudpunk89, I think that circuit is well worth the effort because it increases a Stratocasters™ tone range tremendously. I don't have any photos of the wiring done on an actual guitar but I feel the diagaram would be much easier to follow.
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Post by proudpunk89 on Jan 25, 2009 20:25:47 GMT -5
Yes I do see the potential, and I am always hung up on tone possibilities, I drag my buddies along to hardware stores and flea markets looking for hardware and electronics i can cannibalize to possibly achieve a new sound.
I do wonder now that I am preparing to implement this mod, should the DPDT switches be a 2 way toggle [On/Off] type or the [ON/OFF/ON] 3 way toggle?
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Post by newey on Jan 25, 2009 20:32:05 GMT -5
You want DPDT On-On types. The one switch toggles between series/parallel, the other between in-phase and out-of-phase. You don't want or need a center position.
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Post by proudpunk89 on Jan 25, 2009 20:41:58 GMT -5
Fantastic, because I already bought the switches
I would have anyway, got a good deal.
I would like to dedicate this mod to my fellow nerds at radioshacks all across the world, except for Johnny.
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Post by proudpunk89 on Jan 26, 2009 6:42:05 GMT -5
So, as far as I know, I might be the only one actively looking into this mod right now, I'll take step by step photos of the process, for those in the future who [originally like me] were clueless as to where to start.
Wolf do you currently have a guitar with this mod?
And to end with a question, Assuming a stratocaster style guitar with pickuard wiring, where would all the grounds be? Are there any preferred ground spots I should be aware of?
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Post by pete12345 on Jan 26, 2009 17:45:37 GMT -5
And to end with a question, Assuming a stratocaster style guitar with pickuard wiring, where would all the grounds be? Are there any preferred ground spots I should be aware of? Collecting them all together at one point is the important thing. If you're doing the 'quieting the beast' shielding then a washer or ring terminal is used to attach all the grounds to. Otherwise, the back of one of the pots is preferred. |
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Post by proudpunk89 on Jan 26, 2009 21:16:25 GMT -5
Collecting them all together at one point is the important thing. If you're doing the 'quieting the beast' shielding then a washer or ring terminal is used to attach all the grounds to. Otherwise, the back of one of the pots is preferred.[/quote]
"In fact the ring terminal is what I am implementing
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Post by mcshine on Jan 28, 2009 10:50:01 GMT -5
Hello, i have also just started implementing the basic idea of this mod , mixed in with the phase switching mod here -only with a twist -as my strat has a humbucker in the bridge position, I'm changing the DPDT phase switch (far right in ultra strat diagram) to a SPDT coil tap, the bridge & neck SPDT on/off switches to DPDT on/off/on switches (which will be used to select between In phase/off/out of phase). The middle pickup switch can stay as an on/off switch as (as far as i can figure, correction is welcome) there's no benefit to being able to reverse the phase of all three pickups as this would put them in phase with each other, which wouldn't sound any different, would it?  The series/parallel switch would still function the same as in the ultra strat mod. If anyone can see any flaws in my design i would appreciate a heads up before i put solder to it ;D |
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Post by pete12345 on Jan 28, 2009 13:00:34 GMT -5
I don't think this will work- the on/off switches here work by shorting out a pickup to switch it off. What this means is that the pickup is on when the switch is 'off'. Replacing the on/off switches with on/off/on phase switches will result in the switching being off/on/off- no out of phase available
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Post by proudpunk89 on Jan 28, 2009 13:31:56 GMT -5
I wired it up yesterday and at first some of the settings worked but many switch configurations did not, I thought it was me doing a bad solder job or something, but i redid it 3 times and once with a new set of switches and i'm stumped,
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Post by ChrisK on Jan 28, 2009 18:05:17 GMT -5
This is why I posted
There are some dead combinations possible in this mod.
A chart delineating all of the possible combos might be of help. Phasing is of future worry until the 16 possible combos are known.
Comparing the actual realizations against this would be clues galore.
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