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Post by mclord on Sept 16, 2010 19:39:11 GMT -5
Hello John. I just have a little question, are you sure of the 22nF capacitor wiring ? I have revised some old wiring and i see it is connected to the middle lug of Tone pot ( as connected ) and connected to the ground on the same pot. Why do you connect it here to the third lug of the volume pot instead ? Or all this wiring will lead to the same result ? I just need a little clarification. Thank you
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Post by JohnH on Sept 16, 2010 20:45:00 GMT -5
It's OK, the tone pot and cap are connected in series between the volume pot hot lug and ground. It makes no difference which order the cap and pot are
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Post by mclord on Sept 16, 2010 22:53:58 GMT -5
Alright.. I have something more, about the output wire, I have 2 wires inside it, one bare thick silver wire and another white one. As far as I remember, the silver one was soldered at the top of the volume pot and the white one at the wiper lug in the same pot.. I just want to make sure if you have any idea about the colors. I think if I was right, the real white is red one in the scheme and the real silver is the orange one in the diagram ? Sorry for asking too much question, the wiring is almost over, only connecting the wires to the superswitch is what is remaining. Wiring wires for the 2 pots was a nightmare EDIT: About the pickup wires - the colored wires - . They are too delicate. Since I don't have a wire stripper, I have used a small scissors and a knife to remove the insulating material, but this method will not work with these delicate wires I guess. Do you have Anny suggestions that may help me ?
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Post by ashcatlt on Sept 16, 2010 23:39:26 GMT -5
Going back a few posts, it's best to heat the objects you're soldering to until they melt the solder. Don't just put the iron on and push the solder up agianst it. Then... Alright.. I have something more, about the output wire, I have 2 wires inside it, one bare thick silver wire and another white one. As far as I remember, the silver one was soldered at the top of the volume pot and the white one at the wiper lug in the same pot.. I just want to make sure if you have any idea about the colors. I think if I was right, the real white is red one in the scheme and the real silver is the orange one in the diagram ? I think you've got that right. It'll work otherwise, but will likely be a little noisier. Don't be sorry for asking questions. I use my teeth to strip wires. Tough to explain to the 6 year old that it's the wrong way when it works better than any wire stripper I've ever tried.
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Post by mclord on Sept 16, 2010 23:49:45 GMT -5
I just want to understand the 6 years old ? Thanks for your reply
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Post by JohnH on Sept 17, 2010 0:17:04 GMT -5
my quite effective piece of non-standard bad practice for stripping wires is to touch the insulation quickly on each side with a soldering iron tip, at the place where you would otherwise score it with a blade. Then pinch with finger and thumb-nail and pull off the end of the insulation to reveal the wires inside. Twist the coper strands together and tin with solder.
I gave up the teeth method in my teens, but still have the notches to remember it!
John
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Post by mclord on Sept 17, 2010 12:08:02 GMT -5
Another way to consider which its doer thinks it is a bad practice or a wrong way but in my opinion I say " The ends justify the means".. XD Thanks John.. I may try that
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Post by mclord on Sept 22, 2010 5:26:22 GMT -5
Well, very bad news. I won't be able to continue the project. I lost one p/p because the damn knob. It gone it but never came out. I tried to get it out and it took the p/p stick (the 1~10 revolver) After I removed it, I inserted it and the push pull is no longer working.. Now I am stuck with 1p/p and 5 way super switch.. I was discussing another scheme in case this one is failed. Well yea it failed now because of my stupidity. DAMN !!!!!!! I am feeling sick now for that lost effort. I have thrown that damn knob away from the window.. I am sorry John and Newey. I have been wasting your time for all this period. I don't know if I should open a new thread about the new design in my mind about the design I was discussing with John via PM .. It is more simpler, I guess. Or more specifically, What is my best options using 1 P/P and a Superswitch ? I was discussing this switching with John, but I have made some changes to make it easier: Pos3 - down : Les Paul like (Is that all 4 coils in parallel or Neck humbuckers are in series and bridge humbuckers in series too but each 2 are in parallel ? - like the diagram - ) - I am confused about this Pos3 - up : Tele-ish like .. Thanks for the idea, John or just in series .. The easier one. I don't care ! Also I don't know if this switching is possible or not. But I would be be happy if you guys helped me after all that. Sorry guys... EDIT: Just out of curiosity, Can a P/P(DPDT) + 5 Way Super switch do what a 4PDT & 5 Way Import (Fender) switch can do ?
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Post by wolf on Sept 22, 2010 12:03:26 GMT -5
mclord and JohnH JohnH - heck I thought the "soldering iron" wire stripper was my discovery. Okay, and at the risk of losing a patent, another wire stripping idea of mine is an alligator clip.
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Post by mclord on Sept 22, 2010 12:14:07 GMT -5
Hey C'mon.. I am in trouble and you are claiming your discovery XD .. LOL That made me laugh for a second..
I wish you could share with us the scheme for the last switching system Could you, Wolfy ?
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Post by JohnH on Sept 22, 2010 16:36:02 GMT -5
mclord and JohnHJohnH - heck I thought the "soldering iron" wire stripper was my discovery. . I got a clip around the ear from my workshop teacher for doing that in 1974 - how about you? mclord For a simple low stress wiring (per my pm the other day) the SD scheme on post 3 of this thread is not bad: guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=wiring&action=display&thread=5236To persue the super 15 idea, but with one pp pot, would you be interested in controlling single col mode just by turning the tone pot? I do this on my LP and I like it alot. See this thread for simple version (not directly for you, but principles) guitarnuts2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=schem&action=display&thread=3167in your case, we would use one pp pot to switch just from series to parallel on the twp coils selected by the 5-way. In series mode only, as the tone approached 10, it cuts back to single coil, and at 9 and below it is humbucker. Tones would be: series mode, tone at 10: No Ni M Bi Bo series mode, tone at 9 and below No x Ni Ni x Bo M x Ni Bi x M Bo x Bi parallel mode - tone any position No + Ni Ni + Bo M + Ni Bi + M Bo + Bi Just a thought John
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Post by mclord on Sept 22, 2010 16:46:14 GMT -5
I have never expected this could be done using an analog method.. but yea.. I have to admit , it is very cool..
Well, anyway, since everything is mixed and the switching system I have drawn above can not be done, It seems I may sacrifice split coil tones. But I have nothing in my mind....
The problem here, Do I go with Les Paul Like in the Middle or Have Split Coil for each of the humbuckers ? I think combining both is impossible, right ?
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Post by JohnH on Sept 22, 2010 17:20:44 GMT -5
In the above lists, the second coil listed in each combo can be in any order, but it must be the same in Series/single and in parallel modes. This scheme does not lend itself to getting two full humbuckers in parallel, such as in an LP middle position.
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Post by mclord on Sept 22, 2010 17:30:13 GMT -5
I recall the problem about trying to have No+Bi & NoXBi in the middle but M is not in the middle in Single mode. Right ? Well.. I don't know how you figured it out at first but I see you were able to achieve it. Anyway the situation is different now. I am leaning more towards one of the above ( in the diagram ) since I lost a p/p and no spare. So either use it or not at all..... Ofc, I am trying now to get the best use of the Superswitch... and since I listened to my pickups in a Les Paul.. I now want this combination even I will sacrifice humbucker splits.. Whatsoever, I appreciate your efforts. Thanks I think I better open a new thread... however, I will keep that switching to apply on the other guitar... I found it is not practical on stage at all, but gets your tone variates to the max ! But lets see what you will say first !
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