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Post by ijustwannastrat on Jul 14, 2010 14:22:48 GMT -5
So I found a used Fender Twin Reverb, and I was wondering what everybody thought of it...
It is a 100w amp, 2x12 speakers, it has a 1/4 power switch.
A clean channel, and a dirty.
I'm not sure if I'm thrilled about the dirty channel, but whatever. It has a single input. There is an effects loop with send AND receive volume levels. Pre-amp out, power-amp in.
If anybody has any opinions, shoot....
I'm going to wait a week or two before looking at it again. The seller wants $750, but I would like to be the in $600 range....
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Post by lpf3 on Jul 14, 2010 16:23:56 GMT -5
ijwannastrat- You asked me about my twin in the other thread- OK, I'm just gettin' back to you here.  (sorry) Chuck's right, when it's cranked it's pretty sweet. The problem is, whether at home or in smaller venues, you can't always play loud enough to get it to break up. And my Twin is 85 watts- you're talkin' about 100 watts (is it the Evil Twin?) That's gonna be loud. For me, I don't like a lot of distortion, maybe just a little splash o' dirt, just enough to break up the signal- & maybe it's me but the (sought after) Tube Screamer just ain't the same. That's where I think you'll appreciate that 1/4 power switch- you should be able to get a great tone without hurting your ears (or your neighbor's) The reverb is great, and extremely dial in-able so you can get just a little room ambience, or go Cavernous. It's pretty bright, especially when played clean at lower volumes. I usually keep the bright switch off- and I like to twang now & then. Of course you can dial that in, too. And speaking of clean, it can be sparkling clean. I guess I could go on & on , I have to say that I love it- it's a great & somewhat versatile amp. Depending on your needs , you should at least check out a Blues Jr.  That is, depending on your needs of course. I think it's a great amp. Killer tone. It seems warmer, or bluesier, or something. All tube & only 15 watts so it breaks up real nice at not-so-earbleeding volumes. The 15 watts means it ain't gonna be as loud as that Twin but if you need more volume you could always mic it thru the P.A. ? The good part is, it's within that $600 you're lookin' to spend- brand new. Pardon my rambling.  In the end it's up to you, if you really like that Twin- by all means buy it, you probably won't be sorry. -lpf3 EDIT: Just to be clear I edited my post to say that my Twin is 85 watts instead of the 65 that I originally stated. But still........... |
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Post by D2o on Jul 14, 2010 17:06:49 GMT -5
As always, lpf3's "rambling" is right on the money.
He mentioned a 65 watt tube amp, and I thought I would add that I had a 30 watt tube combo amp for home use. I found that it was simply too much, and I never really did get to sort of open the throttle and experience what it was intended to do.
I would rather have had around 15 watts - or likely even less ... maybe even a small head and a good cabinet.
Now, if I was a gigging musician I would have kept the 30 watt amp - it was great for that. I can see the need for a 100 watt amp, too ... the question is do you have that need?
Anyway, that's between you, some wet socks and a puddle of beer to work out.
By the way, I got a good deal on the amp and actually came out slightly ahead upon the sale of it. So, whatever you decide, if you get a deal on a good tube amp and then change your mind and sell it, the mistake is unlikely to cost you much - if anything.
That generally holds true of most any used musical instruments and such, which is why I have never bought a new amp or guitar.
Jayzuz ... who's rambling now ... what's the topic again? ...
Cheers,
D2o
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Post by ashcatlt on Jul 14, 2010 17:23:05 GMT -5
Now, if I was a gigging musician I would have kept the 30 watt amp - it was great for that. I can see the need for a 100 watt amp, too ... the question is do you have that need? Like, you mean, are you living in the 60s and 70s when the biggest PAs available were barely capable of amplifying the vocals alone to be louder than the drums? Or, are you playing in arenas on huge stages where the folks on the other side of the stage might have trouble hearing you? I borrowed a Fender Quad from a friend for a show once. Ran the drum machine through it. You could hear it three blocks down! |
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Post by D2o on Jul 14, 2010 17:50:40 GMT -5
Hey, I didn't see I have the need! I can just see the need ...
... like ... yeah, an arena ... or, or when a guy determines that a 100 watt Twin is less expensive than a divorce lawyer.
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Jul 14, 2010 18:21:16 GMT -5
I was thinking, since wattage has to multiply by ten for perceived volume to double, wouldn't a 15w amp not even be half as loud as a 100w amp? With that in mind, the jump from 85w to 100w is nothing, and the jump from 30w to 100w isn't too dramatic....
I don't trust most bar's to have a decent PA, and most drummers like having more than a 5 piece drum set. Add in 2 or 3 part vocals, the PA could be very tied up.
As for distortion, if all else fails, I'm sure flateric could build an all tube preamp..... It DOES have the pre-out/power-in....
Of course, now I'm just being condescending, asking for opinions, then trying to defend my opinion.
Also, I have no worries about divorce lawyers, that's the benefit of being unchained...
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Post by newey on Jul 14, 2010 18:35:51 GMT -5
lpf3 asked:
Sure sounds like it to me- I thought the mid-'80s "Red Knob" (aka the "Evil Twin") was the only one to have a 1/4 power switch and an effects loop.
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Post by lpf3 on Jul 14, 2010 18:40:35 GMT -5
Oh, I don't know. I'm a chain- ee & I got my Twin as a gift from the chain- er. lpf3 |
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Post by chuck on Jul 14, 2010 20:28:28 GMT -5
if cool amps are part of being a chain-ee .... i might have to rethink my chainless strategy
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Post by lpf3 on Jul 14, 2010 21:00:34 GMT -5
Chuck- After awhile the lines become blurred. That's when ya make yer move. Soon everybody's wonderin' "Just who's chainin' who?" One of these days I'm gonna make my move & when I do; it's gonna be big. ;D ;D ;D lpf3 |
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Post by ashcatlt on Jul 15, 2010 0:43:19 GMT -5
See now, I've been on the other end.
Like running sound in a little coffee shop and I can't get the vocals loud enough because the one guy brought in a Super, the other has a full Marshall stack, and the bassist has 4 10s and an 18. I could walk up and scream into the vocalist's ear and he couldn't understand a word I said. How do you suppose his mic felt?
And don't even get me started on drummers. Mine has a volume control.
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Post by chuck on Jul 15, 2010 9:48:00 GMT -5
Q : what do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians all the time ?
A : a drummer
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Post by D2o on Jul 15, 2010 10:06:18 GMT -5
Q : what do you call a guy who hangs around with musicians all the time ? A : a drummer Chuck - you may just enjoy this post. |
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Post by chuck on Jul 15, 2010 10:26:36 GMT -5
lol ... awesome ! thanks D2 ... i needed that laugh |
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Jul 15, 2010 11:12:24 GMT -5
See now, I've been on the other end. Like running sound in a little coffee shop and I can't get the vocals loud enough because the one guy brought in a Super, the other has a full Marshall stack, and the bassist has 4 10s and an 18. I could walk up and scream into the vocalist's ear and he couldn't understand a word I said. How do you suppose his mic felt? And don't even get me started on drummers. Mine has a volume control. That sounds like improper volume knob usage. It's like I've always said, "If you aren't doing a solo (or an important melody/fill), your guitar volume should be at 6-8." |
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Post by thetragichero on Jul 18, 2010 1:01:18 GMT -5
maybe for blues
for metal/hard rock/punk/loud crap you want your [guitar] volume at 10 and some sort of boost to the power amp (effects loop for the win!)
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Post by chuck on Jul 18, 2010 17:32:26 GMT -5
guitar volume on 10 ... then roll it back for the clean-ish stuff .
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(sorry)
In the end it's up to you, if you really like that Twin- by all means buy it, you probably won't be sorry.
