Coil-Cut Diagram.How to wire.

[funkblaster]

eh. Ive read most of this site i think. as well as the link to 1728.com/guitar. but i dont think i saw a diagram for how to wire a coil cut. If someone knows where to find one that would be a big help.

I want to wire a coil cut into a 3-way toggle (SPDT center on ) for a control just fo that one pick up. Is this even possible?

[funkblaster]

i want a 3-way because i have ordered a dimarzio multibucker that i think would be cool to be able to cut into two, but also have the option of keeping the humbucker.

[Runewalker]

Seymour's diagram. This one has the attached in/outta phase switch, which is optional

Note you will need to convert SD's color scheme to dimarzio's

try:

www.has-sound.com/info.htm#Humbucker%20Pickup%20Wiring%20Color%20Codes

[Runewalker]

whupps:

SD's diagram link:

www.seymourduncan.com/website/support/schematics/series_split_par_w_phase.html

[wolf]

funkblaster
Okay, go to this page of my website:
www.1728.com/guitar.htm
scroll about 3/4 of the way down and you'll see 3 diagrams in which you can have a coil cut option.
Throwing all modesty aside, I think my diagrams are pretty easy to follow AND you can find the DiMarzio wiring colors directly.

When you mention the SPDT center on switch are you referring to the pickup selector switch ?

[funkblaster]

yea. I WANT to use a regular ol' les paul style toggle for the "coil-cut selector".

[funkblaster]

I dont really have an excellent eye for these electrical diagrams yet. (not to say i dont understand the basics or anything) So I'd like your input. could this setup www.schoolmusic.co.kr/html/wiring/img/06/wdu_h011_02.gif work for what I have in mind?

[wolf]

funkblaster
That would not work because you need a Single Pole Double Throw Center-OFF switch. The Les Paul pickup switch is an SPDT Center ON. (If you are unfamiliar with these terms, go to www.1728.com/project2.htm

Also, what do you want from the entire wiring of this guitar? What are you planning to do with the other pickup(s)? I'm guessing that you want to have a 2 pickup guitar (with typical Les Paul Switching) except that whenever the bridge pickup is active, you want to have the options of either of the single coils active or the humbucker in series.

[funkblaster]

from the bridge pickup i would like to have the option of humbucker, single coil, or single coil
so its like up up: rear coil, middle: Humbucker, and down:front coil

[funkblaster]

and then i have a telecaster pickup for the neck and they will be put together like a les paul.

[wolf]

I'd say you would need to keep the pickup switch and you'll have to add 1 SPDT center OFF switch so you can select the 3 choices from the bridge humbucker.
NOTE: In the middle position of the pickup switch, one of the coils will be humbucking with the neck pickup.

[funkblaster]

I read through the pickup's little booklet about installation and it gives a diagram for coil cutting using a DPDT Center-On, that would still work along with the rest of my setup right?

[wolf]

funkblaster
The DPDT on/on/on switch would give you series/coil-cut/and parallel wiring of the humbucker.
If you want to have a choice of coil A/series/coil B (which you originally stated), then you'd need the SPDT center OFF switch.
Basically, it depends on what you want.

[funkblaster]

the paragraph says you use an on-on-on dpdt miniswitch, wire it to the diagram, and it "gives three sounds: the full-power series wiring of all four coils is the center position, and the DP181(Coil B) and (coil A)DP184 sounds are the side positions.
Also wouldnt a SPDT centeroff only allow two sounds? Or am I just wrong on that term.

[wolf]

funkblaster
Since we have referenced a LOT of websites and diagrams, specifically, which diagram are you talking about in your most recent posting? (Please post a link).
Also, an SPDT center OFF switch would allow up to 3 different sounds.

[funkblaster]

the diagram I was refering to in my last post is in the booklet that came with the Multibucker, that booklet is also where I got that quote from.

[wolf]

funkblaster
Please reread my Reply#12.

Basically I am saying the BOOKLET is showing you how to use a DPDT on/on/on type switch for 3 sounds - parallel / coil-cut / series.

That WEBSITE DIAGRAM located here:
www.schoolmusic.co.kr/html/wiring/img/06/wdu_h011_02.gif
shows how to use an SPDT center OFF switch to allow coil A / Series / Coil B

Which choice do you want?

If you want BOTH choices I might be able to come up with a diagram using 2 switches that would allow series/ parallel / coil A / coil B choices.

As I said before, what exactly is the switching that you want?

[funkblaster]

All I want is a 3-way coil cut: Coil A/Humbucker/Coil B. Nothin real fancy. It looks like Ill be using the diagram here www.schoolmusic.co.kr/html/wiring/img/06/wdu_h011_02.gif for what Im looking for. Thanks for leading me in the right direction etc. Just wondering is that diagram a good way to wire the circuit or do you know some other trick to get a better sound? (keep in mind I am an amatuer). Thanks for all the help though...Ill let you know how the guitar turns out! For sure.

[funkblaster]

By the way, do you have any idea what uf capacitor I should use on the DiMarzio Multibucker (i am using 500k pots)? I bought .047uf caps. Is kind of just a trial and error type thing or what? (Im looking for a large tonal range, or at least not extremely high or low.)

[wolf]

funkblaster
First of all, I decided to rework that diagram to make it a little easier to follow.


I'd recommend using a .047 mfd capacitor. The only problem being it might cut out the very high frequencies even when the tone control is set at 10. There are "full on" tone pots that are sold which eliminate this problem. You can make your own "full on" tone control but it's a little tricky.

[funkblaster]

ok. how do i connect the white and black wires together? Do i twist them together and then connect that to he port on the switch?

[wolf]

funkblaster
You could twist those together and wire it directly to the switch. However, I think soldering a small wire to the black and white connection and then soldering that 1 wire to the center terminal of the switch makes a junction that is much more secure.

[funkblaster]

I have a telecaster neck pickup with a black and white wire. Which is + and which is - ?

Also, do you have a diagram for wiring a tele neck pickup to its own vol and tone pots; then to a les paul toggle? Could I use the top part of this diagram? www.schoolmusic.co.kr/html/wiring/img/03/wdu_hh3t22_02.gif