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Post by CheshireCat on Feb 6, 2006 14:25:17 GMT -5
Bigger response forthcoming, but you can get that circuit for a lot less at guitarheads.net. It goes for something lik $28, plus a few bucks shipping, and runs cheaper on the eBay auctions. I wouldn't pay $40 for it if I were you . . . I'm getting that myself and I know I'm not. As far as tone controls, trade them out for EMG EQ circuits, specifically the BTC and VMC. More later. Incidentally, what does "GFS" stand for? I'm not familiar with that acronym. Chesh
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Post by eljib on Feb 6, 2006 17:40:36 GMT -5
GFS stands for Guitar Fetish Shop, or something like that. Kinda corny, but they have some great pickups REALLY cheap. If you check often enough, you can find their products on auction rather than "buy it now," so you wouldn't be paying $40 for something like that anyway.
Tell me more about these EMG circuits. Although I'm already determined to go forward with this project using a version proposed by Hastings, I would like to know more about these controls for a future project. Maybe you could start a thread on the subject.
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Post by jhng on Feb 7, 2006 11:14:50 GMT -5
I've tried to doctor the S-Tastic Diagram showing how the various switches work. You will see how simple the two Mid-On (parallel and series) switches are. I'm afraid I'm going to be away for a few days. I hope the diagram is clear. The concept is very simple so I'm sure you won't get lost! Hastings
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Post by eljib on Feb 7, 2006 15:32:45 GMT -5
Thank you. It looks great!
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Post by CheshireCat on Feb 8, 2006 16:25:21 GMT -5
GFS stands for Guitar Fetish Shop, or something like that. Kinda corny, but they have some great pickups REALLY cheap. If you check often enough, you can find their products on auction rather than "buy it now," so you wouldn't be paying $40 for something like that anyway. Don't know those pickups. Interesting. Tell me more about these EMG circuits. Although I'm already determined to go forward with this project using a version proposed by Hastings, I would like to know more about these controls for a future project. Maybe you could start a thread on the subject. The EMG-BTC and the EMG-VMC. BTC stands for Bass/Treble Concentric, or, both the bass and treble on one shaft using a double stacked pot. IOW, you get 12dbs of boost and cut for bass and treble in one spot, or using the space of one tone control. (Incidentally, the BTS is Bass/Treble Seperate, but that takes up more space and there's no real advantage to that per se . . . at least to my way of thinking.) VMC stands for Variable Midrange Control. It also is a double stacked pot, but one controls the 12dbs of boost and cut and the other controls the resonant frequency, thus allowing you to control where you apply the boost or cut. Very handy. These circuits are a real brainy no-brainer way of getting three band EQ on your guitar, which sounds amazing. You still get the benefits of a tone control, but you also get incredible treble and a bottom end you have to hear to believe. Granted, the bass control has a more pronounced effect on a bass than a guitar, but it still works very well on a guitar, and is mandatory imo for any extended range or baritone guitar. If you wanted to use this for your current project, it would easily couple with whatever you were doing. I know because I use them in everything I do. Chesh
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Post by eljib on Feb 9, 2006 4:49:59 GMT -5
So, do these come in DPDT varieties?, because that's what I need for this mod.
Also, do you recommend using both of these controls together?
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Post by eljib on Feb 16, 2006 3:15:07 GMT -5
Hastings, welcome back.
I already finished wiring up the project according to your diagram, but I wanted to verify something before restringing. In your post you state that a .045 cap on the mid pup will produce the desired "half-phase" sound, but in the diagram it shows 0.45
Right now I have two .022 caps wired in parallel because I was hoping that you meant .045, but I am unfamiliar with "half-phase" sounds and what you need to make them, so I thought I would wait till you could weigh in.
0.45 or .045?
Thanks
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Post by jhng on Feb 17, 2006 4:59:51 GMT -5
Yes I did mean 0.045uf.
Hope the mod does all you require! I suggest that before reassembling the guitar and re-stringing you check that all the switches, knobs etc do what you hope.
The way to do this is to plug the guitar in to the amp. Turn the volume on the amp down to MINIMUM!!! And gently scratch the pole of each pup with a screwdriver or such. You will hear a noise!
Thus you can check that the right pups come on in the right positions, you can also hear how the quality changes according to series/parallel/phase, and can twiddle the knobs while doing it to make sure they work too.
Good luck!
Hastings
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Post by CheshireCat on Feb 17, 2006 17:01:13 GMT -5
So, do these come in DPDT varieties?, because that's what I need for this mod. If you are referring to the EMG EQ circuits, no, they don't, because they are dual concentric pots, two stacked on the same axis, one on top of the other. Basically you are getting four pots in the space of two holes. Also, do you recommend using both of these controls together? Yes, that gives you 3-Band Shelving EQ. With both, you get Bass, Treble, and Variable Midrange. Chesh
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Post by eljib on Feb 24, 2006 21:22:17 GMT -5
Okay, I finished routing, re-shielded the new cavity, and I'm all wired up. I cannot believe how much more versatile this thing is than my own average, ordinary, everyday S-tastic. Hastings, I can't thank you enough for suggesting this setup (and for helping with the schem). You really should try this out. There are only two positions which I have not found use for (yet), and that's mostly because they sound very close to other, more powerful options. I haven't yet been able to distinguish the half-phase sound of the mid pup. Maybe you could explain how -you- use it, and find it effective. Also, if anyone else is thinking about trying this modded mod, I highly suggest using the push/push switches. Being able to reverse all three switches at once makes for some killer one-man versatility, without waisting time pulling on knobs (we all know what you're thinking, Unk, so keep it to yourself). For instance, I played a dead-on Pinball Wizard using only this guitar through the demo amp at my local shop, and at least five guys came over to see all the different pedals they assumed I must have been using to nail those sounds so accurately. The best part is that (because this thing looks completely stock) when they saw there were no pedals and asked how I was able to get so many sounds out of a stock strat, I offered them a puzzled look and declared with a straight face that "tone comes from technique! It's all in the fingers." I'm sure I'll share the secret some day, but one of the guys was the shop assistant that treated me like an A$$ when I needed help finding parts the other day. Something this powerful should never fall into the wrong hands (besides he was just going to keep on propagating false ideas like that, anyway. Now he'll just be dissatisfied with his own abilities...and gear! Hahaha). Anyhow, as you all can see, this has been a life changing experience. It will totally inspire your playing, and make you irresistible to all beautiful women and the occasional lonesome cowboy. (Right up your alley, Unk!) ;D
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Post by jhng on Feb 27, 2006 11:58:06 GMT -5
Glad it worked!
"Half-series" is a better term than "Half-phase" (as nothing is out of phase). Try this:
Select "Neck and Middle in series". With both tone controls at 10 it does what it says on the tin.
Turn the Middle tone control down to the 0-2 range. You should find sounds that are distinct from both "Neck on it's own" and "Neck and Middle in series" but somewhere in between. Compare how the "bottom end" is more like N&M in series and the top end is more like N on its own.
Incidentally, which were the two less useful sounds (I bet one was N&B in parallel with M in series).
Hastings
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Post by UnklMickey on Feb 27, 2006 12:36:16 GMT -5
...without waisting time pulling on knobs (we all know what you're thinking, Unk, so keep it to yourself). ... huh? what?
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Post by dunkelfalke on Feb 27, 2006 13:36:03 GMT -5
Bigger response forthcoming, but you can get that circuit for a lot less at guitarheads.net. It goes for something lik $28, plus a few bucks shipping, and runs cheaper on the eBay auctions. I wouldn't pay $40 for it if I were you . . . I'm getting that myself and I know I'm not. holy cow, now i owe you even more. that artex exp is exactly what i've been looking for for months - looks even better than btc, and much better than the emg exg & spc combination like david gilmour uses ;D
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