Phostenix Comments

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Does what you said it does

[newey]

donbazarov-

Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2!

I concur with angellahash, the diagram does what you have listed.

what worries me is that on this diagram hot from neck goes on volume pot and ground goes to switches. Is that correct?

This arrangement leaves the neck pickup "hanging from hot" in a couple of positions of the switch. While we try to avoid having coils "hanging from hot" where possible, sometimes it is not possible- and this scheme would seem to be one such instance where it is not (someone smarter than me might be able to rejigger the wiring to eliminate the hanging coil, but I'm not seeing it).

Anyway, if you like the scheme otherwise, the hanging coil issue shouldn't deter you. It is a "best practice" to avoid it, but sometimes it can't be avoided.

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Our sisters fridge and toaster socket was left hot, IE the electrician got the live and natural the wrong way around

Didn't notice this till I had a induction pen next to it. Apart from being live always even when off, it will motors go the other way around so I'm told.
It doesn't do much, but the difference between the two points
Even if both are hooked to ground, there could be a differences

[donbazarov]

Thanks everyone! I'll give this diagram a try and see what happens. 

[stevewf]

Dec 7, 2021 1:54:05 GMT -5 @angellahash said:

Our sisters fridge and toaster socket was left hot, IE the electrician got the live and natural the wrong way around

Apart from being live always even when off, it will motors go the other way around so I'm told.

The fridge became an oven, and the toaster'll un-toast bread?
I ain't no ee-lectrician, but I think that with house current being AC, the motors won't run backward as a result of reversed wiring; only a potential [see what I did there?] safety issue arises.
The safety issue has the same nature as "hanging a pickup from the hot"; if you do that, the gizmo will work, but you risk being zapped by the hum gods.

[reTrEaD]

Dec 9, 2021 11:33:09 GMT -5 stevewf said:

The fridge became an oven, and the toaster'll un-toast bread?

That gave me a severe case of the giggles.

It's true that on a three-phase motor, swapping two of the phases will indeed make the motor spin the wrong way round. But the power delivered to homes is not supplied by three-phase transformers. It's single-phase (or in the case of US, split-phase with each phase being 120v relative to neutral, and 240v between the two phases.)

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Dec 9, 2021 11:33:09 GMT -5 stevewf said:

Dec 7, 2021 1:54:05 GMT -5 @angellahash said:

Our sisters fridge and toaster socket was left hot, IE the electrician got the live and natural the wrong way around

Apart from being live always even when off, it will motors go the other way around so I'm told.

The fridge became an oven, and the toaster'll un-toast bread?
I ain't no ee-lectrician, but I think that with house current being AC, the motors won't run backward as a result of reversed wiring; only a potential [see what I did there?] safety issue arises.
The safety issue has the same nature as "hanging a pickup from the hot"; if you do that, the gizmo will work, but you risk being zapped by the hum gods.

It's not hanging hanging live

with 3 phases ING to each house.. normally one phase per House

The problem is you have a lot of sheep on the site who just follow, and if someone cherps some think they pile in and kick without knowing why. Playground rules never finish from the playground it keeps going in adult lift.

Maybe need basic electronic explained , because w lot of terms are used different here than a lot of electrical and electronics world

[donbazarov]

Guys, I checked the wiring on my strat, and it's at first glance it looks correct according to this diagram. However it doesn't work as intended.
Particularly second position, which should be bridge+middle in parallel simply doubles first position, so only bridge works... 1, 3, 4 and 5 positions are alright.

Do I understand correctly that the contact engaging Middle's "-" at second position is labeled V?

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V for the ground
P for the output to S1 Switch

Why should do a beep test in stages than the whole lot and try to fault find

[donbazarov]

Thanks. I looked closer and guitar tech indeed screwed up. There was no connection between S, U, V and tone pot at all. I soldered it and it works now! 9/10 positions work fine - 1s position with S-1 has no sound at all   Otherwise all good. I'll leave it as it is for now.

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Dec 16, 2021 6:03:48 GMT -5 donbazarov said:

Thanks. I looked closer and guitar tech indeed screwed up. There was no connection between S, U, V and tone pot at all. I soldered it and it works now! 9/10 positions work fine - 1s position with S-1 has no sound at all   Otherwise all good. I'll leave it as it is for now.

Neck Hot K1=OUTPUT
Bridge Hot E1=S1.5C (4 Output/6 Not Connected)
Middle Ground W1=S1.5C (4 Output/6 Not Connected)
Middle Hot Q1=OUTPUT

Do a beep test to check that from the Middle HOT and the Neck Hot go to OUTPUT
then check that Bridge Hot and Middle Ground go to PIN 5 on the S1

[David Mitchell]

I went back to 2 Pickup Teles today and found none of the images are loading. I checked a couple of other pages and had the same issue. Just me? Temporary problem? Or needs attention?

[cynical1]

It looks like all the PhosteniX image links are broken. Let's see what I can find out.

HTC1

EDIT: It looks like Phostenix dropped off the radar. The link to their google.site only returns:

We're sorry, we were unable to locate the site /phostenixwiringdiagrams/.

The Phostenix image links are all broken, too. They all appeared to live at:

res.cloudinary.com/phostenix/image/upload/GuitarWiring/

All that returns is a 404 error.

This res.cloudinary.com page can’t be found. No webpage was found for the web address: res.cloudinary.com/phostenix/image/upload/GuitarWiring/
HTTP ERROR 404

I don't believe we own this content, I believe we just mirror it.

Someone with a clue should be along shortly...

HTC1

[MattB]

Internet Archive has quite a few diagrams saved:

web.archive.org/web/*/https://res.cloudinary.com/phostenix/image/upload/GuitarWiring/*

[reTrEaD]

The image issue has been resolved.

[cynical1]

Retread and YogiB worked hard to fix this. Many thanks and kudos to you both.

HTC1

[reTrEaD]

Apr 27, 2023 9:08:52 GMT -5 cynical1 said:

Retread and YogiB worked hard to fix this. Many thanks and kudos to you both.

HTC1

I'm sure Yogi will appreciate the kind words, as do I. He did more of the work but accomplished it in a fraction of time I spent. Gotta respect talent.

[David Mitchell]

Apr 26, 2023 22:29:01 GMT -5 reTrEaD said:

The image issue has been resolved.

Apr 27, 2023 9:08:52 GMT -5 cynical1 said:

Retread and YogiB worked hard to fix this. Many thanks and kudos to you both.

HTC1

Thank you, reTrEaD and Yogi B, for fixing the images, and thank you for following up on it, cynical1. This is one of those moments I get a glimpse of what it takes to keep GN2 running, and I really appreciate you guys who are doing that!

[reTrEaD]

Apr 28, 2023 12:15:01 GMT -5 David Mitchell said:

This is one of those moments I get a glimpse of what it takes to keep GN2 running, and I really appreciate you guys who are doing that!

Here's another moment. JohnH did much of the work translating the html from the original site to BBCode used in the threads in our presentation.

[erwan]

I try this wiring in one of my strats



and I put a Artec BCU instead of Tone 1 and a Fender TBX instead of tone 2

I really like it

[ozrictentacle82]

Hello esteemed members of the forum.  

Would someone here please verify the colors for the humbuckers on this diagram?

res.cloudinary.com/phx1/image/upload/GuitarWiring/PeaveyEXP5-WayRS.jpg



I am using Seymour Duncan colors and I'm not quite confident I am going to interpret the diagram correctly with the colors varying for each pickup.

I know the Red/White are coils and Bare/Green are GND, black/hot for Seymour Duncan.



Thanks for any help that may be offered.

Take care!

[newey]

OK, this is a bit confusing because it looks like Peavey has a different color scheme for the neck pickup than for the bridge. This is probably done because the pickups are a matched set, where the neck pickup is wound differently than the bridge, so different wire colors are used to distinguish the two.

We have a wire color chart in the References section, and it lists Peavey, but these colors don't seem to correspond with the reference, and I'm not sure that the location of the wires coming out of the pickup gives a clue as to which coil is which.

Per the chart in our references, Peavey colors are listed as:

Black- North Start
White- North Finish
Red- South Start
Green-South Finish

(the bare wire is always a ground for the pickup frame and is always grounded)

From the diagram, I see:

Neck Pickup:

Red to output (presumably, it's South start but not sure)
Blue- presumably South Finish, in place of the green, but again, not sure
White- North Start- again presumably
Black- to ground, presumably North Finish

Bridge, I get:

Red to output
Gray to ground

White and green connect together, so presumably its red/white and green/gray for the two coils.

To be sure which coil is which, we'll need to get further into this diagram, I didn't have time to go through the whole thing as I'm off to work at the moment. Let's let someone else chime in as I'm not certain.

[JohnH]

If we say grey are the bare non-signal wires, and the blue wire is really green, then I think both pickups are same, per this example of Peavey colours from 'Humbucker Soup':




So red goes to hot, black to ground, white and green joined. White and black are one coil, red and green is the other coil. It seems consistent with the switch wiring on the diagram.

As Newey found:


Black- North Start
White- North Finish
Red- South Start
Green- South Finish

Translate to SD colours, using the top and bottom of this chart:






That should do it. Although, I dont think we've ever checked the original diagram, we just hosted it here, but Phostenix' designs were pretty well thought out and executed.

[ozrictentacle82]

I was just concerned with the colors as they were on the diagram itself.

Thank you both for taking the time to help with what likely seems like a simple question. I was just hoping to avoid having to desolder and solder wires multiple times.


UPDATE:  the other version of the this diagram is using the Seymour Duncan colors, so that alleviates the confusion that the other version gave me.

res.cloudinary.com/phx1/image/upload/GuitarWiring/PeaveyEXP5-WayRSP-Rails.jpg