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Post by sumgai on Dec 5, 2022 1:02:15 GMT -5
Jack TriPpErCouple of things to note: a) Labels. South versus North and Start versus Finish are all arbitrary designators, and there is no standard for which coil they may be assigned to, nor for which way the coil leads are assigned. In fact, we had a discussion several years ago, and it turned out that it depends more on how one is looking at (perceiving) the winding job on the two coils. A good example is your own most recent diagram, wherein you "invert" the Bridge's coil junction and the two outer wires.* Nice job, by the way. b) I like your revised diagram. It's still not a simple as ang's, but it will work as advertised. sumgai * In point of fact, I went back and researched this again. Member CheshireCat first brought it up in May of 2005, just days after this Forum was fired up! Others joined in, and it was bandied about for quite some time. The first use of the word "re-stacking" that I could find was in 2011, by ashcatlt. On his own website, wolf also had some diagrams and discussion about this topic, but I think he called it "inside-out" wiring. More recently, it's been referred to as "inverted wiring".
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Post by Jack TriPpEr on Dec 6, 2022 0:58:45 GMT -5
Hi sumgai, Thanks for the compliments on the wiring diagram. Could you share a link to the thread where the discussion was had about labeling of North vs South? I would to get more details about the concerns about it. Thanks again!
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Post by sumgai on Dec 6, 2022 10:53:43 GMT -5
.... Could you share a link to the thread where the discussion was had about labeling of North vs South? Well. Ya know, I'm getting on in years, so my formerly much-vaunted and ballyhoo'd steel-trap memory has rusted to the point of looking more like a sieve than a trap. What I can remember, and it isn't enough for the Search function to go on, is that ChrisK responded to someone about this topic, and it ran for a few pages. Now, in order for Chris to participate, it would've had to've been before his death, in February of 2010. Which I should be able to recall, but sadly I'm not. Anybody else wanna help out here, please? sumgai
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Post by gokartmozart on Dec 8, 2022 23:26:31 GMT -5
No no no, when I got the guitar last week the overall switching orientation was backwards (i.e. position 1 was the neck instead of bridge); I swapped a couple of the leads and that got me back to the factory spec of: gokartmozartAre you saying what you want for the UP position, is as if the pickups were pictured going bottom to top, instead of top to bottom like they are in the diagram? I.e. so for the pickup that is shown as the Neck pickup's position, treat that as the Bridge pickup, and vice versa?
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Post by Jack TriPpEr on Dec 9, 2022 0:34:37 GMT -5
gokartmozart, the scheme I posted a couple days ago provides exactly what is pictured in the image you just used in your latest reply. In your earlier reply to the scheme I posted, it seemed you were saying that i misunderstood some aspect of your request. But instead apparently I misunderstood what you meant in that earlier reply from you (and I still do). Ok, enjoy and thanks[/quote] No no no, when I got the guitar last week the overall switching orientation was backwards (i.e. position 1 was the neck instead of bridge); I swapped a couple of the leads and that got me back to the factory spec of:
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Post by gokartmozart on Dec 9, 2022 9:32:05 GMT -5
The confusion was probably all me, apologies for that! The scheme you did for me the other day is ~60% close to where I'm back at now with the factory specs; all of the "Tone Up" positions match. Honestly at this point after spending a few more days with it, if I could just get "Tone Down" position 3 to be both humbuckers and position 5 to be just the neck I could live with it. Will have to keep playing around with the meter some more to see if I can transpose the old style vs. new style superswitches. gokartmozart, the scheme I posted a couple days ago provides exactly what is pictured in the image you just used in your latest reply. In your earlier reply to the scheme I posted, it seemed you were saying that i misunderstood some aspect of your request. But instead apparently I misunderstood what you meant in that earlier reply from you (and I still do). Ok, enjoy and thanks
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Post by Jack TriPpEr on Dec 9, 2022 10:31:38 GMT -5
gokartmozart, This evening I will put some time in to create a cross-ref btw old and new superswitch design.
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Post by Jack TriPpEr on Dec 10, 2022 12:18:19 GMT -5
gokartmozart, I've spotted that in the last diagram (edit: since deleted), I have the superswitch oriented backwards. I'll fix that shortly and post up the update.
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Post by Jack TriPpEr on Dec 10, 2022 21:49:32 GMT -5
gokartmozart, As I wrote this morning, I have updated the diagram to have the (old style) superswitch depicted in correct physical orientation, i.e. how it would look when you have the guitar laying on its topside and looking into the control cavity. I think this should do it as far as edits/improvements. Let me know how it works out.
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