How to do a series cap and partial coil split on one switch?

[xenod]

How to switch in a series cap and partial coil split on one switch?
So that in the normal off position, the cap is bypassed and the coil split resistor is lifted (open)
And in the ON position we have the cap in series with the pickup and the resistor across one coil.?

[newey]

xenod-

Sorry no one has replied to this yet. I can try to work something up for you a bit later, real life calls at the moment. But first, what type of switch do you plan to use?

[Deleted]

State 1 - Just Pickup
State 2 - Resister Around the Pickup, and the Hot going to a Capacitor

Am i reading it wrong

[xenod]

Sept 6, 2021 7:43:11 GMT -5 @angellahash said:

State 1 - Just Pickup
State 2 - Resister Around the Pickup, and the Hot going to a Capacitor

Am i reading it wrong

I think we're trying to say the same thing.:
State 1:Unmodified humbucker.
State 2: Resistor shunt across ONE of the coils (partial coil split mod) and cap in series with the whole pickup.

[ashcatlt]

DPDT On/On wired like so:

N/C | Resistor to bottom wire of pickup
Top wire of pickup + one end of cap | “Series link“ of pickup
Other end of cap + hot output | N/C

[xenod]

Aug 29, 2021 14:04:20 GMT -5 newey said:

xenod-

Sorry no one has replied to this yet. I can try to work something up for you a bit later, real life calls at the moment. But first, what type of switch do you plan to use?

Probably DPST, possibly DPDT.

[newey]

as ashcatlt notes, you'll need a DPDT; that's why I asked.

[reTrEaD]

Sept 9, 2021 11:16:52 GMT -5 xenod said:

Probably DPST, possibly DPDT.

DPDT will do the job without question.
It will not be possible with a DPST.
SPDT will work if the coil to be partially bypassed is at the top of the series 'stack' and the cap is between the (+) wire of that coil and the hot.

[xenod]

Thank you everyone. 😊
Hmm. 🤔
I need to make myself a diagram.
I don't need double throw at all for the function of the switch, so it doesn't seem like I should need that to do the wiring.?
I might need 2 poles, but not really two throws, 3 positions.. Just need on and off. Idk if DPST is common to find?
It doesn't seem like it should be that complicated, but it hurts my head trying to think about it without the switch or a good picture in front of me. Lol.

[reTrEaD]

xenod, you may be confusing the number of throws with the number of positions. A SPDT or DPDT switch can have two positions. Or they can have three positions.

If a switch lug can be internally connected to different lugs depending on position, we call that a pole.

A SPST toggle switch has two positions. And it has two lugs. In this case it really doesn't matter which lug we consider to be the pole. In one position the two lugs are not connected internally. In the other position the two lugs are connected internally.

A SPDT two-position toggle switch has three lugs. In one position the pole is connected to one of the throws. In the other position the pole is connected to the other throw.

A SPDT on-off-on (three-position) toggle switch has three lugs. In one position the pole is connected to one of the throws. In the center position none of the lugs are internally connected. In the other position the pole is connected to the other throw.

The appropriate switch for your needs would be a two-position SPDT.

Does that make sense to you now?

[xenod]

Sept 13, 2021 13:50:49 GMT -5 reTrEaD said:

xenod, you may be confusing the number of throws with the number of positions. A SPDT or DPDT switch can have two positions. Or they can have three positions.

If a switch lug can be internally connected to different lugs depending on position, we call that a pole.

A SPST toggle switch has two positions. And it has two lugs. In this case it really doesn't matter which lug we consider to be the pole. In one position the two lugs are not connected internally. In the other position the two lugs are connected internally.

A SPDT two-position toggle switch has three lugs. In one position the pole is connected to one of the throws. In the other position the pole is connected to the other throw.

A SPDT on-off-on (three-position) toggle switch has three lugs. In one position the pole is connected to one of the throws. In the center position none of the lugs are internally connected. In the other position the pole is connected to the other throw.

The appropriate switch for your needs would be a two-position SPDT.

Does that make sense to you now?

Yes. I guess I don't get what throw is? Thanks for clarifying. 😊
This kind of stuff always gets me. Even when I "understand" it I still get confused.
I have to have pictures for reference.

[ashcatlt]

Edit: No, that’s worse! Didn’t work at all like I thought, and I hit Post rather than Preview. Give me a minute to see if I can fix it.
I think that’s better. Is that better? Looks better on my phone...

             N/C | Resistor to bottom of pup
Top of pup + cap | “Series link“
cap + hot output | N/C

Does that format help? It’s a little more like a picture. Try to draw it out. Even just on a napkin or whatever. Post it and we’ll let you know what (if anything) needs to change. At least one of us will learn something and gain a little more confidence.

[xenod]

Oct 28, 2021 12:16:35 GMT -5 ashcatlt said:

Edit: No, that’s worse! Didn’t work at all like I thought, and I hit Post rather than Preview. Give me a minute to see if I can fix it.
I think that’s better. Is that better? Looks better on my phone...

             N/C | Resistor to bottom of pup
Top of pup + cap | “Series link“
cap + hot output | N/C

Does that format help? It’s a little more like a picture. Try to draw it out. Even just on a napkin or whatever. Post it and we’ll let you know what (if anything) needs to change. At least one of us will learn something and gain a little more confidence.

Yes, that helps a bit.
I'll try to do a diagram and post it. - It may take a while to get back to it. Busy with work and working on my house, and have my main computer unplugged. Lol.