3 single coil 1 vol 1 tone 1 dpdt - where am I going wrong?

[shooter]

Hello all

I am trying to set up a strat type system with 5-way switch that allows me to have the bridge always on, the body cavity is too shallow to fit a push-pull so I have substitued one of the tones for a dpdt mini toggle that would (in theory) keep the bridge switched on when engaged. However, things have not gone to plan! Modifying the standard 3 sc 5-way wiring this is what I thought would work (apologies for the rudimentary picture):

What I thought this would achieve is:

toggle up -

1. neck/bridge

2. neck/middle/bridge

3. middle/bridge

4. middle/bridge

5. bridge

toggle down -

1. neck

2. neck/middle

3. middle

4. middle/bridge

5. bridge

What I am actually getting with this is:

toggle up -

1. bridge

2. neck/middle/bridge

3. neck/bridge

4. neck/bridge

5. neck/bridge

toggle down -

1. nothing

2. neck/middle

3. neck

4. neck/bridge

5. nothing

Clearly I have got this all wrong but can someone please explain what I need to change?

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that is Strange
could i have a Photo of the Switch so can see the Moving parts.

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Im not a big fan of this circuit as you get 3/10 the same 30%!
where if it was

	0 Common	1	2	3
A	OUPUT	+Middle	+Neck	-Middle
B	GROUND	-Middle	Not Connected	+Middle

A0) Output, A1) +M, A2) +N, A3) -M
B0) Ground, B1) -M, B2) NC. B3) +M
that way you are phasing the Middle
(was going to suggest phasing the Bridge with a toggle but!! never on its own then)

So 2P2T (On/On/On)

	1	Common	2
A	OUTPUT	+Bridge	GROUND
B	GROUND	From 5way	OUTPUT

A1)[12] Output AC) +B, A2)[ 3] GND
B1)[1 ] GND BC) From 5way, B2)[23] Output

1) Bridge
2) Bridge + 5way Switch
3) 5way Switch

[newey]

shooter-

Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2!

It sounds like there are (at least) 2 separate problems. In the positions where you are getting nothing, probably a bad connection. But I also wonder if you have correctly identified which lugs are the "common" or "pole" lugs on the 5-way switch. Depending on the specific brand of switch, it can be hard to tell sometimes.

Any serious troubleshooting will require a multimeter. Do you have one?

[psiloguitarensis]

isnt the volume ground lug needing connected?

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Nov 20, 2021 15:03:08 GMT -5 psiloguitarensis said:

isnt the volume ground lug needing connected?

Yes your right it should be
that wouldnt effect what pickups are selected
But WELL Spotted i didnt notice it

[psiloguitarensis]

Nov 20, 2021 6:59:30 GMT -5 shooter said:

Hello all

I am trying to set up a strat type system with 5-way switch that allows me to have the bridge always on, the body cavity is too shallow to fit a push-pull so I have substitued one of the tones for a dpdt mini toggle that would (in theory) keep the bridge switched on when engaged. However, things have not gone to plan! Modifying the standard 3 sc 5-way wiring this is what I thought would work (apologies for the rudimentary picture):

What I thought this would achieve is:

toggle up -

1. neck/bridge

2. neck/middle/bridge

3. middle/bridge

4. middle/bridge

5. bridge

toggle down -

1. neck

2. neck/middle

3. middle

4. middle/bridge

5. bridge

What I am actually getting with this is:

toggle up -

1. bridge

2. neck/middle/bridge

3. neck/bridge

4. neck/bridge

5. neck/bridge

toggle down -

1. nothing

2. neck/middle

3. neck

4. neck/bridge

5. nothing

Clearly I have got this all wrong but can someone please explain what I need to change?

the gilmour mod is what your after?
bridge pickup to lug 1 on selector
the DPDT common 2 GOES TO volume pot

dpdt lug 4 to pos 3 of selector correct?





shooter something to compare to basic diagram though tone pot should be connected to vol not common