SSS with 3-Way Varitone and Pickup Effects

[frets]

Hi Guys😺😺😺,

This in one I’ve worked on for some time; and, I think it’s right this time.  But before building it, I was hoping one of the Angels would review it.  I appreciate it.  I took a stab at this one time before but it had errors (go figure).

I also wanted to express that a 3-Way Varitone is really a powerful tool.  I now use 22nF, 10nF and 47nF (could be substituted for 33nF).

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i always find it hard to read these 5 way switches

So like a Alpha/S-type Lever Switch really (reading Left to Right)

-B and -M are LINKED then a POT to Ground
Going to take me a bit of time to read this
A1) +B
A2) +M & (SW2 UP +N)
A3) (SW2 DOWN +N)
A0) Output
B0) Not Connected
B1) (SW2 DOWN +N)
B2) GROUND
B3) +B

SW2
DOWN
-N Links to -M & -B that Link to a POT to Ground
+N links up to B1 & A3
UP
-N links to GROUND
+N links to A2 and +M

[newey]

frets-

No time to proof it at the moment as I'm at work, but I'm a bit confused by the switch numbering. Your diagram has "SW-1, SW-2, SW-3" with the 5-way switch as SW-3. But the Truth Table lists the 5-way as SW-4 and a push/pull as SW-3?? I think I get what you intend, but a bit confusing.

[frets]

Newey, it’s my ADD. Ha!
I’ll fix it and re-upload. As always, thanks!!
😻😻😻

[frets]

Re-upload with truth table fix.

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Drawn it out a few times and getting lost so weekend job for me.

As for the truth table I'd sooner not know and hope we match up after. Sort of if you know the answer you will drift to it.

Volume and tone (different) are ok, just the one switch and the lever to figure out.
The B side is only grounding at position 2&4 , think when I come to write it down I will just do up/down and the lever position and just xP to show in series with the pot for the grounding .. so like normal algrabaric formula

[pyrroz]

hi frets nothing to comment just asking what's the name of the CAD software you used to draw your circuit.

[frets]

Hi Pyrroz, 😺

I use DIYLC. diy-fever.com/software/diylc/
It’s free. But I have drawn all my own components within the software.

[pyrroz]

Mar 10, 2022 10:37:07 GMT -5 frets said:

Hi Pyrroz, 😺

I use DIYLC. diy-fever.com/software/diylc/
It’s free. But I have drawn all my own components within the software.

thanx! I use the same!! (discovered it a few days ago) how do you draw the straight lines?

Did you manage to to any verification or testing on the semantics of the actual circuit? still a noob with diylc

[unreg]

Mar 10, 2022 12:16:33 GMT -5 pyrroz said:

how do you draw the straight lines?

hi pyrroz, usually straight lines can be drawn if you hold down the shift key before releasing your mouse’s left click; then release the shift key. Though, I’ve never used diylc; it seems pretty cool! 👍

[pyrroz]

Mar 10, 2022 12:46:07 GMT -5 unreg said:

Mar 10, 2022 12:16:33 GMT -5 pyrroz said:

how do you draw the straight lines?

hi pyrroz, usually straight lines can be drawn if you hold down the shift key before releasing your mouse’s left click; then release the shift key. Though, I’ve never used diylc; it seems pretty cool! 👍

which one do you use?

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i dont think i can follow the circuit well

Hmm have a idea, I'll just draw what matters IE one circuit for up and one for down and hope I can figure the five lever switch

[newey]

frets-

Sorry, I'm having real difficulty wrapping my head around that blend pot series/parallel wiring. I always have trouble with working that sort of thing out. @angellahash seems to be having the same issue, but he's more clever than I am, he'll probably work it out first.

Meanwhile, some other help would be nice with this one. Perhaps reTrEaD or sumgai can jump in on this? (fingers crossed. . .)

[unreg]

Mar 10, 2022 14:49:23 GMT -5 pyrroz said:

Mar 10, 2022 12:46:07 GMT -5 unreg said:

hi pyrroz, usually straight lines can be drawn if you hold down the shift key before releasing your mouse’s left click; then release the shift key. Though, I’ve never used diylc; it seems pretty cool! 👍

which one do you use?

Ummm… I’ve only used Microsoft’s Visio.

While: It’s really cool! The line drawing is extremely great! And, if you follow the url, in the only diagram I’ve completed/posted (in my thread currently below this one) you’ll be able to download the free Guitar Stencils Project to add all of their guitar part shapes to your Visio.

However: Visio is NOT free. I actually illegally used a registration pin I found on the net… obviously, Microsoft found that shared pin too and disabled it. Therefore my Visio no longer works.

I don’t recommend activating Visio illegally; was my mistake.

Definitely pay for it, if that’s possible and you plan to make a ton of diagrams and need software; also, I believe there’s a free period to try it out; great software!


I didn’t post about it in your thread bc it’s not free and I’m not using it anymore.

Oh, and Yogi B indirectly introduced me to Visio.

[frets]

Newey😸😸😸,

I actually built it and it is doing what I think it should be doing. I don’t have any dead spots and the 0 to 10 is giving me the pickup combinations I specified. Although it is difficult to tell if the pickups phase, I can hear the series on the tap test, but phase always eludes me. I would like another set of eyes on my diagram. Maybe there is an easier way to do everything I have loaded on that one pot. In the end, it might be easier just doing a phase and a series with a B&N blender instead.

[frets]

Oh I forgot, DIYC has a new version out for those who are using it.

And thanks to Angellahash!

[sumgai]

I'm monitoring the whole forum, but for the past couple of weeks, two out of my three remaining brain cells keep crashing in to each other, instead of playing nice. Sigh.

By the time my meds can put me to rights, other members here will likely have sussed this out.  Sorry, frets.





sumgai

[jhng]

I had a quick go at turning this into a schematic (see below).  It is a mash-up of an old Armstrong mod and a phase switch, which is clever but I don't quite see how the blender is working.  In particular, having the grounds from the Middle and the Bridge joined together and both going to the wiper of the blend seems to preclude the intended series blending.  frets - are you sure that what you have implemented is actually what is shown in your layout?

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I keep seeing the Bridge Phased at one point and one position i get no result
(NOTE my 1..5 is upside down)


Left side 2) (B+M)x(PxN)