Looking for an easier way to do a switch

[frets]

Does anyone have a diagram that has an easier way to do the following Superswitch diagram?  I’m tired of this one as I always end up freezing a position.  And I can solder well.  I just think this one I came up with is convoluted.  I’m looking for a better one.  Same effects produced.

[newey]

Mar 28, 2022 14:10:08 GMT -5 frets said:

I just think this one I came up with is convoluted.  I’m looking for a better one.  Same effects produced.

Yes, convoluted. But which tone pots are to be active in which positions? Also, unless some pots are shown upside down and others right-side up, one or more would look to be wired lefty.

[frets]

I’m not worried about where the tone pots are connected.  I can connect those where I want but if it makes a difference to be precise; then, I want them in their typical position order for a five way.

Im a little lost with the question regarding pots being upside down or not.  All are upside down and illustrated in a manner that assists connection.  I don’t see that as an impediment to doing the switch.  I’m not being snarky😺.  I really appreciate the help.

[newey]

No, I got ya. I just wasn't clear on what you meant by "freezing a position". Anyway, let me have a look at the SS wiring . . .

[newey]

OK, I wasn't able to come up with much that would be simpler. The problem is getting the dual coil splits "playing well" with the series and series OOP settings. I see simpler ways, but all with issues with the coil splits in the series settings.

Let's get another set of eyes on this.

[frets]

Newey,
When I referred to “freezing a position,” I meant getting too much solder that runs down into the tine and locks the mechanism. It’s horrible when it happens on a Superswitch because it is incredibly difficult to get braid and the soldering iron down into the mechanism.

For me on the diagram it happens on pole 4, lug 3 - almost every time.

Anyway, the coil splits are what I can’t get past to make the switch easier. I wonder if there is a way to put the splits with the half phase on the switch and do the series on a pot?

[unreg]

frets, this is probably unnecessary, but is P1 really a Volume AND a Tone pot? That’s how it’s labeled.

Really cool and complex wiring! 😀


EDIT: Sry, was unnecessary! Your P2 clearly has a 22nF cap, so the second “P1”, in your key, reads “P2”.

[MattB]

You can get almost exactly the same selections using only three poles on the superswitch.

The only difference is the neck tone control. Instead of being connected from hot to ground in positions 1-4, it's connected directly across the neck pickup.

In your original diagram, the neck tone acts as a master tone in positions 2 and 4, affecting both pickups. In my altered version, in positons 2 and 4 each tone control only affects its own pickup.

Edited diagram:

And a schematic:

[MattB]

Here's an alternative: by moving the phase reverse to a second push-pull, you can get all the same pickup selections using only a 2P4T, as well as parallel out of phase.

[frets]

Matt B😸😸😸,

Thank you! Thank you!!!
Since you’ve joined you’ve been such a help on the forum. I really appreciate the time and thought you put in to help me with this.

[reTrEaD]

MattB That was very nice of you. Also, including schematics as well as the circuit diagram, makes it easier to follow. So doubly nice.

Mar 29, 2022 6:36:13 GMT -5 MattB said:

Here's an alternative: by moving the phase reverse to a second push-pull, you can get all the same pickup selections using only a 2P4T, as well as parallel out of phase.

I've never been a big fan of the way the Baha Telecaster has the hot of one pickup wired directly to hot, causing it to dangle there when not being used. But that's not a huge deal-breaker and allows for just a two-pole switch.

I noticed you paid attention to hum-canceling when splitting the HBs. You split the Bridge pickup to South. And because you referenced the Neck series-link after the phase switch, you select the Neck North when in-phase and Neck South when out-of-phase. Getting hum-cancelling when combining one coil from each pickup is always a plus. 👍