Yogi B's HSH diagram and hello world

[agentwayward]

So, I had a look around and couldn't find a place to say hi specifically, presume it's ok to do it in here but I have a question anyway. 

I'm from the UK, I normally live in Croatia, I do guitars and I do motorcycles. I'm an engineer who doesn't do standard. 

I'm OK at understanding wiring diagrams and sometimes even following them, but it can be difficult for me to look at someone elses work and understand what's going on or how to adapt it etc. 

I've been looking at different HSH schemes for a while as I'm building an HSH strat style guitar at the moment and the wiring is pretty much due to be done now, so I need to make a decision. I saw this thread which has what I think is a truly great scheme for HSH. Yogi's HSH 
What makes it great is that it uses basic components, no expensive switches (get away from me with your extravagant S1's!) and the thinking is just clever. The selection of pickups and order happens to suit me as well, so we're all good. 

Anyway, the diagram doesn't seem to have gotten any further than that one thread, it hasn't shown up in the schematics section (unless I am being really dumb, in which case please direct me). 

I can't be sure about the rest of it. I mean the vol and tone pot connections. Can someone help me out with that? 

EDIT: What I'd really like is to build Yogi's scheme with 2 volumes and 1 tone. Volume 1 = Neck and middle Volume 2 = Bridge Tone = Master. Or if that's not possible, V1 = Neck volume, V2 = Bridge Volume Tone = Master. 

In which case would I use a 470k resistor to the middle single coil? 
 
My pickups are: 

Hum Alnico V 7k
Sing Alnico V RWRP 6k
Hum Alnico V 14k

Pots are 500k. 

If I can use the 2 volumes, I'll do a p/p pot for the switching, if not, I'll use a toggle to fill the hole in the plate.
I have a 5 way 4 pole Oak Grigsby superswitch. 

Capacitor, .022µF Orange Drop

Capacitor, .047µF Orange Drop

Treble bleed kit. 

I think that's everything! 

[agentwayward]

Here's a diagram from Dimarzio which might help. I'd like to add a dpdt or p/p to provide more coil split options like the Yogi scheme. 

[newey]

Agentwayward:

Saying "Hi!" here is fine

Hello and Welcome to G-Nutz2!

You are correct, YogiB's diagram was, apparently, never finalized. At the moment, real work calls, so I can't get to reviewing it at the moment. But others will be along soon, and if not, I'll have a look later. I don't see any insurmountable problems with what you want to do here, but I'll need to take a closer look.

[agentwayward]

Thanks Newey, 

I think you're right, I just can't get my head around it! Seems like it would make a good system though. 

This might help too. It's a very similar scheme to Yogis, but a full schematic. The pickup selections are mildly different, it gives a few different options and the layout is better in some ways. This one just needs (JUST, as if it's easy!) the extra volume pot. 

If anyone fancies a go at this, I'd be happy with either Yogis or the one I've posted here, they are quite similar. 

[newey]

Looking at the dual volume controls, read this thread:

JohnH's Strat with 2 Volumes

The take-away there is that, for 2 volume contrls to work consistently with a master tone, use a dual-gang tone pot for the master tone, with each pickup wired to one gang of the 2-gang tone pot. The tone controls then are wired before the pickup switching, just as on an LP with individual V and T controls. This avoids interaction between the volume pots with the master tone.

The DiMarzio diagram you reference doesn't do this, and so the pots won't work in a consistent fashion.

[agentwayward]

OK, that's interesting, not seen that before, makes sense though. I'll have a closer look. 

[agentwayward]

Feb 16, 2021 11:04:45 GMT -5 newey said:

Looking at the dual volume controls, read this thread:

JohnH's Strat with 2 Volumes

The take-away there is that, for 2 volume contrls to work consistently with a master tone, use a dual-gang tone pot for the master tone, with each pickup wired to one gang of the 2-gang tone pot. The tone controls then are wired before the pickup switching, just as on an LP with individual V and T controls. This avoids interaction between the volume pots with the master tone.

The DiMarzio diagram you reference doesn't do this, and so the pots won't work in a consistent fashion.

I think i'm preferring the second Suhr layout, can you see any issues with the diagram? It checks out as far as I can see, but would be great to get a second opinion. If that's all OK, I'd like to try for the 2gand volume pot which should be straightforward(ish) given JohnH's advice. 

[newey]

Feb 16, 2021 12:08:10 GMT -5 agentwayward said:

I think i'm preferring the second Suhr layout

Not sure to which diagram you are referring. Is that in the other thread?

[agentwayward]

Feb 16, 2021 12:18:00 GMT -5 newey said:

Feb 16, 2021 12:08:10 GMT -5 agentwayward said:

I think i'm preferring the second Suhr layout

Not sure to which diagram you are referring. Is that in the other thread?

Sorry, no I mean the one in my first reply to you in this thread. Titled "JS Technologies".