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Post by pyrroz on Feb 16, 2023 16:58:24 GMT -5
Black nail polish. Get the cheap stuff, it's all lacquer. Certain members in the trade have used nail polish to hide dings and scratches for very a long time. Don't ask me how I know that...
Black Nail polish, this should be handy in all modern guitarists tool box, I mean this is so common for guitarists to paint their nails black! lol
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Post by cynical1 on Feb 16, 2023 17:01:44 GMT -5
You can play Radiohead without a floyd or a guitar hahaha! That was priceless. I laughed so hard I scared the cat... HTC1
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Post by cynical1 on Feb 16, 2023 17:15:45 GMT -5
I mean this is so common for guitarists to paint their nails black! Made me think of Steve Stevens. But hey, no Floyd... I guess I just "digressed" this thread... HTC1
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Post by unreg on Feb 16, 2023 20:44:53 GMT -5
Play some Shawn Lane man!! You can play Radiohead without a floyd or a guitar hahaha! Epilogue for Lisa is incredible! Thank you cynical1! 😀 Yes, will try learning that. pyrroz, did learn and play the live version of “Spinning Plates” on piano before leaving college and being diagnosed with Schizophrenia. Practicing piano late at night was a great escape from all the terribleness in my head. Sadly, the massive amounts of medication destroyed my piano playing, but it was fun and I can learn again. Anyways, I do understand Radiohead is possible without guitar. And I understand you; going to try Shawn Lane eventually. EDIT: Oooh, thank you, I did apply black nail polish to the scratches and cleaned the guitar with a damp cloth thing; it looks so much better now!
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 17, 2023 2:47:58 GMT -5
Play some Shawn Lane man!! You can play Radiohead without a floyd or a guitar hahaha! Epilogue for Lisa is incredible! Thank you cynical1! 😀 Yes, will try learning that. pyrroz, did learn and play the live version of “Spinning Plates” on piano before leaving college and being diagnosed with Schizophrenia. Practicing piano late at night was a great escape from all the terribleness in my head. Sadly, the massive amounts of medication destroyed my piano playing, but it was fun and I can learn again. Anyways, I do understand Radiohead is possible without guitar. And I understand you; going to try Shawn Lane eventually. EDIT: Oooh, thank you, I did apply black nail polish to the scratches and cleaned the guitar with a damp cloth thing; it looks so much better now!
just pls remember , there is lots of epigenetics going on, lots of induced stress, lots of autoimmunity, a diagnosis is just a label. The medication is horrible. Please PM me if you need to share my own experiences. All the best to you! Enjoy some Radiohead, "Creep" and Paranoid Android are extremely nice work.
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 17, 2023 2:50:40 GMT -5
I mean this is so common for guitarists to paint their nails black! Made me think of Steve Stevens. But hey, no Floyd... I guess I just "digressed" this thread... HTC1
great guitar and feeling!
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Post by cynical1 on Feb 17, 2023 9:31:43 GMT -5
I think his loyalty to Billy Idol has eclipsed his talent in some people's eyes. He is certainly one of the more under rated guitarists still flogging it out there. Check out his solo stuff: Flamenco A Go GoMemory CrashOr the stuff he did with Tony Levin and Terry Bozzio: Black Light SyndromeSituation DangerousAnd he was born in NYC. Enjoy HTC1
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Post by unreg on Feb 17, 2023 23:57:47 GMT -5
Enjoy some Radiohead, "Creep" and Paranoid Android are extremely nice work. Agree! Also, this “Like Spinning Plates” (live version) yt video is excellent in part bc you can see his hands on the piano. It’s really beautiful imo. Sry about the pre-song talk; it may be ok, but talking before music is kind of distracting for me at least, so I apologised. —- I noticed noise from my guitar while playing and perhaps that’s due to the fact that my bridge ground wire is still unconnected. It was perfectly noise-free for about a minute. The noise is not hum or buzz; rather it’s like low popping noises… sry describing it is hard. I tried soldering that bridge ground wire to the shiny steel part that the three springs latch into; but, even after sanding a spot of the steel, soldering was extremely impossible. Is that due to the nature of steel? (Maybe that’s the reason I received the guitar with the wire unattached. ) EDIT: The steel looks like it hasn’t been sanded. Am thinking I should just remove that wire…
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 18, 2023 0:28:28 GMT -5
IMHO you should ground the bridge. The luthier should have done that. If you still cannot solder it, there is a small like clip so that the wire can be attached even without solder. Please send pics of the problem.
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Post by unreg on Feb 18, 2023 2:10:04 GMT -5
a pic of the problem? I guess this is the problem... bc when I touched the unsoldered wire more low pitched popping noises happened. Then I turned my amp off. That wire was soldered to the circular rod, it's black (dark gray) beneath the wire in this pic of the OFR's underneath, on my old LFR. Chose that circle bc of a recommendation saying not to solder to the metal rectangle that the strings latch into bc that rectangle moves during use of the floyd rose. The OFR's rectangle is made of hardened steel. I tried soldering to it due to the coating on the circle rod. Sending a signal through the dark gray coating on that rod returns a reading of ~30 ohms... the hardened steel gave 0.0 ohms.
--- I believe that the intro to the Like Spinning Plates live version above is shorter than it is on Radiohead's I Might Be Wrong - Live Recordings cd.
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Post by cynical1 on Feb 18, 2023 3:51:40 GMT -5
Usually you solder the bridge ground to the claw. Like this: You may need to sand it a bit for the solder to stick. Worse comes to worse, a crimp wire ring terminal on the claw screw works, too. HTC1
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 18, 2023 6:58:36 GMT -5
a pic of the problem? I guess this is the problem... bc when I touched the unsoldered wire more low pitched popping noises happened. Then I turned my amp off. That wire was soldered to the circular rod, it's black (dark gray) beneath the wire in this pic of the OFR's underneath, on my old LFR. Chose that circle bc of a recommendation saying not to solder to the metal rectangle that the strings latch into bc that rectangle moves during use of the floyd rose. The OFR's rectangle is made of hardened steel. I tried soldering to it due to the coating on the circle rod. Sending a signal through the dark gray coating on that rod returns a reading of ~30 ohms... the hardened steel gave 0.0 ohms.
--- I believe that the intro to the Like Spinning Plates live version above is shorter than it is on Radiohead's I Might Be Wrong - Live Recordings cd.
This rectangle piece of steel is called TREMOLO BLOCK! And we are not supposed to solder anything there. Now look at the post by Cyn1 above. Can you locate this on your guitar's trem cavity? Also clean any soldering attempts you have done so far on the tremolo plate , etc.
PS I dont recal the pups of this guitar, if they are active EMGs then no soldering is needed. If they are passive or other active then follow the manufacturer's instructions, most probably grounding the bridge will be needed.
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Post by newey on Feb 18, 2023 8:22:09 GMT -5
most probably grounding the bridge will be needed. Grounding the bridge is necessary regardless of the pickups one uses. Back "in the day", as we oldsters say, the big "Jazz Box" hollow-bodied electrics used to get away without having a string/bridge ground, but these were just one pickup, usually running through a low-powered amp without any gain, pedals, etc. There was noise, but it wasn't so prominent. With a trapeze-style tailpiece and a wooden bridge, there really isn't any easy way to run a string ground unless you run it through a hole at the heel and solder it to the underside of the tailpiece, and they just didn't bother with that way back when. I'd bet that nowadays even those types of electrics have a string ground.
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Post by unreg on Feb 18, 2023 9:30:54 GMT -5
Usually you solder the bridge ground to the claw. Ah, ok… yes, he did ground the bridge then. The claw does have a solder spot. I sent my old set of springs, the ones that came with my guitar, to the luthier… my new ones are still here. The new springs are lighter in colour. They are made with a different material? Maybe that old material, touching the new claw and tremolo block, is causing the random low pitched popping? The old springs didn’t purely transfer the ground connection in my guitar with the LFR; so, I ran that wire, in the pic, to that tall cylinder. Maybe I should just trim that wire and put on my new lighter springs that came with the OFR. Sigh, I didn’t send my new springs bc I wanted to install them myself. Need to set intonation anyways so the string change is already necessary. So, I’ll put the new springs in… p.s. Maybe the popping happens bc the springs are all parallel (and so the edge of one of the springs’ connecting loops is touching the cavity wall)? The new springs should be installed like the ones in cynical1’s pic?
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Post by newey on Feb 18, 2023 9:55:18 GMT -5
Maybe that old material, touching the new claw and tremolo block, is causing the random low pitched popping? I doubt the material has anything to do with it, but if the trem springs are up against the side of the cavity there, I could see that causing some issues as you "tremulate" it. If you're only using the three springs, maybe move the outer ones in to the next hole over? They can be angled from the trem block to the claw.
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 18, 2023 16:06:02 GMT -5
The new springs should be installed like the ones in cynical1’s pic? Not necessarily. You can use two springs parallel to each other or three strings either parallel or "V" style as in the pic. It all depends on your guitar's geometry.
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 18, 2023 16:10:02 GMT -5
Grounding the bridge is necessary regardless of the pickups one uses.
EMG recommends against bridge grounding on their EMG 81,60,85,89, etc active models.
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Post by cynical1 on Feb 18, 2023 16:26:48 GMT -5
EMG recommends against bridge grounding on their EMG 81,60,85,89, etc active models. That's interesting. What about the Livewires? HTC1
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 19, 2023 0:09:04 GMT -5
EMG recommends against bridge grounding on their EMG 81,60,85,89, etc active models. That's interesting. What about the Livewires? HTC1
I haven't tested undoing the grounding, but I never heard any such recommendation from Seymour Duncan.
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Post by unreg on Feb 23, 2023 17:23:26 GMT -5
sumgai, I didn’t even know “Applied Wammy bars” existed… plus, yes, a Floyd Rose does have a wammy bar, but it’s a bridge… (my LFR didn’t even have a wammy bar bc I had removed it and blocked that bridge…) and so I made a mistake; I’m sorry.
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Post by sumgai on Feb 24, 2023 0:36:35 GMT -5
sumgai, I didn’t even know “Applied Wammy bars” existed… plus, yes, a Floyd Rose does have a wammy bar, but it’s a bridge… (my LFR didn’t even have a wammy bar bc I had removed it and blocked that bridge…) and so I made a mistake; I’m sorry. Hey, no harm, no foul. Misplaced posts/threads happen often enough, most of the time the Staff catches them and places them correctly. But here, even I was not paying attention, so in a manner of speaking, you put one over on us.... for 4 pages! Whammy Bars is intended for any configuration of a non-solid or non-hardtail bridge. In short, if the strings can be relaxed/tightened in any manner by a mechanical device, then it's a whammy bar. But I do suppose that the new electronic ones should also qualify, even lacking the mechanical part. They do alter the pitch of the signal that goes out of the guitar, so..... sumgai
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Post by thetragichero on Feb 25, 2023 17:32:51 GMT -5
i discovered early on (before i could even okay the thing) that the trapeze tailpiece on my guild jazzbox could be pushed down for a similar effect to the "silly stick"
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Post by unreg on Feb 25, 2023 22:39:39 GMT -5
thetragichero, so your tail piece must be a wammy bar too, but this Epilogue would be entirely insane to play if you had to push on the tail piece over and over: Epilogue for Lisa Good place to start. Harder than it looks... HTC1 sigh, it’s already insane to play. —- I’m in the midst of setting intonation. It’s quite a job setting it on a new bridge. I was delayed bc my “the key” didn’t work with my Schaller Floyd Rose; so the PickPocket arrived today and works wonderfully. Like “The Key”, the PickPocket takes hold of a saddle and allows me to loosen the saddle screw and adjust the saddle with a slight turn of its Allen key wrench (further note: “the key” doesn’t use an Allen wrench). It’s a very precise tool! The PickPocket (I removed the space bc “pick” and “pocket” don’t seem like a name to me): PickPocket Tool at Sky Scraper GuitarsFinal-edit: Sigh, I can’t make that url work correctly. EDIT: The underlying link is fine, just needed a clean-up on the text. sumgai 02/26/2023
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Post by cynical1 on Feb 26, 2023 5:50:09 GMT -5
so the PickPocket arrived today and works wonderfully. Interesting little tool. It looks like it makes life a bit easier with a Floyd. How did you find this thing? HTC1
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Post by pyrroz on Feb 26, 2023 7:33:58 GMT -5
intonation tool for floyd? how come I never thought that the way I setup intonation on my floyds is ULTRA flawed arghhhhh
this is a MUST!
however, checking only open and 12th is IMHO not the whole job! I also check usually, 21th, 22th, 24th , if they exist, and 10th. Usually its a compromise!
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Post by unreg on Feb 26, 2023 12:43:06 GMT -5
Interesting little tool. It looks like it makes life a bit easier with a Floyd. How did you find this thing? HTC1 It’s really cool! 😀 Um… using duckduckgo.com search engine, I typed something like, “setting intonation on a floyd rose the key doesn't work” bc the key really can’t work on the Schaller, since it’s built with different shaped rod string-stopper-screw ends heads, and then the second video that appeared at the top of the search results was: I think that’s the same video you posted cynical1. EDIT: we’ll, my this video doesn’t say Express Version… I didn’t watch the entire video… just saw him use the tool! FINAL-EDIT: Just finished watching the entire video; it’s really helpful to me.
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Post by unreg on Apr 11, 2023 18:25:46 GMT -5
Differences I noticed: 1.) the Schaller is super smooth and silently bends the strings. On my ESP LFR, bending the strings was NOT smooth and tiny metallic sounds could be heard; perhaps it was the non-shiny non-silver-colored springs. This difference is super evident; it makes me want to learn your Epilogue for Lisa video! 2.) The Schaller’s arm is much longer and it easy to move while strumming the strings; as is apparent in that Epilogue for Lisa video. 3.) As I was fumbling in intonation setting before returning my guitar to the luthier, turning the hardened steel saddle screws was also super smooth. The entire Schaller is more fun to adjust! 4.) Kevin is an excellent luthier! And, yes, he’s also super enjoying being healed, as you said cynical1 (in my klon thread). 5.) My guitar is ready to be played, and my fingers need to stop hurting… I haven’t played in so long… today was fun! A giant thank you to cynical1! And to thetragichero, b4nj0, sumgai, pyrroz, frets, and newey!
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Post by cynical1 on Apr 13, 2023 11:40:03 GMT -5
You are entirely welcome. Glad I could be of some assistance.
HTC1
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