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Post by ssstonelover on Aug 7, 2024 17:26:08 GMT -5
stevewf Yeah, that certainly is an option when using Chrome as the browster on a Win machine... It gets flagged as "insecure" but one can at least manually override that and download the fine, and if paranoid, run it through a virus program just to prove it squeaky clean LOL. I think part of the issue might be that "https:" is missing on the linkage so security won't let you perform some operations.... maybe
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Post by JohnH on Aug 7, 2024 20:37:06 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. And yes I checked with Win10, just clicking the link. Edge got me the download safely, Chrome blocked it. I host it myself, and we have an SSL certificate on our site, but basically I don't know enough about how the various protocols work and what they need
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Post by Yogi B on Aug 7, 2024 21:37:25 GMT -5
With Vivaldi I have no issue, but it does open the downloads in a new tab, and therefore isn't trying to load insecured content from within a secured page. On mobile the links don't work by simply tapping them, but long pressing in order to select "Open link in new tab" works fine. I host it myself, and we have an SSL certificate on our site, but basically I don't know enough about how the various protocols work and what they need The links explicitly specify http as the scheme though! So that's what browsers will try (or, for security reasons, avoid) using. Swapping the links to https — or removing the protocol portion of the URLs altogether (so they start with //) such that they'll default to whatever the webpage is loaded by — should fix the issue.Edit: I thought Viglink was smart enough to make the links it inserts use the same scheme as the links it overwrites. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't — the actual 'vglnk' script seems to be doing nothing to these links, however Proboards include what appears to be a fallback within the forum wrapper and this does blindly use http. Interestingly, whilst paging through the thread does trigger the script, it does not trigger Proboards' fallback — so the links are left untouched. e.g. If (on the desktop site) you go to page 5, then click to go back to page 6 the links below don't get viglinkified. Testing: https — GuitarFreak6.6 (excel 2013, 2016, 365)// — GuitarFreak6.6 (excel 2013, 2016, 365)http — GuitarFreak6.6 (excel 2013, 2016, 365)
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Post by JohnH on Aug 8, 2024 16:23:55 GMT -5
hi Yogi B , thanks for investigating. Yesterday I was able to download from Android on all of those links, and from those in the thread. I just had to open in a new tab. I can try again with Chrome vs Edge. This thread is the only one that I have where I directly link to files for downloading. So it's easy enough to optimise the links. What would you recommend as the format most likely to work for most people?
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Post by sumgai on Aug 12, 2024 12:20:32 GMT -5
John, While convenience is the name-of-the-game in linking the Internet together, the sad fact is that browser makers still can't resist trying to one-up "the other guys". Hence, links that should be straightforward are, intentionally, all over the map... witness Yogi's results, and he's testing with a regimen that butts right up against the scientific method - how many other users aren't going that far? In my browser, Brave, there is a mechanism that turns http into http s, whether the server likes it or not. Maybe once or twice a year I come across a failure, for whatever reason, but I figure that if someone wants to see me use http badly enough to somehow circumvent Brave's feature, I don't need to be there in the first place. Some call it paranoia, I call it personal security. My guidance is that you not only link the file as you have been doing, but that you also include raw text, and mention that if the link is somehow failing, then simply copy & paste the raw text into the address bar, et Voila!, the user is now fortified with Vitamin GF! HTH sumgai
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Post by Yogi B on Aug 13, 2024 7:58:21 GMT -5
This thread is the only one that I have where I directly link to files for downloading. So it's easy enough to optimise the links. What would you recommend as the format most likely to work for most people? So long as they're being rewritten by to http viglink links, I don't think there's any edit that'll result in improvement. Ideally Proboards would fix this there end, but there is a currently applicable workaround — which I'll discuss elsewhere. My guidance is that you not only link the file as you have been doing, but that you also include raw text, and mention that if the link is somehow failing, then simply copy & paste the raw text into the address bar (Also, note that to prevent the forum rendering a raw url text string as an actual link, you'd need to wrap it in [noubbc][/noubbc] or [noparse][/noparse] tags.)
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