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Post by ashcatlt on Mar 27, 2009 22:41:13 GMT -5
If there's any way you can send a Standard MIDI File as well as any audio you might produce, that would be cool.
On the hot chick thing, there is that butt slap synth. It's R rated, so I'm not going to link it here.
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Post by lpf3 on Mar 28, 2009 22:11:33 GMT -5
Mission accomplished - the piano part anyway . Cynical1 - I uploaded the piano track in your DriveHQ .... entitled ( what else ) PianoNutz . Ash - you may have to ride the faders a little on this one , for most of the song I tried to plink around in the background & stay in the rhythm section ( sort of ) but I did take a solo in the second verse . There weren't a lot of spaces left : in some places it sounds fine but in others it's a little busy for my taste - edit as you see fit . I am still workin on a horn section but I'm not sure I hear many spaces for another melody instrument ....... I uh , well , um , don't really know how to work with standard MIDI files so a the best I could do was to record audio . Seems like the more I learn , the more I have to learn .  Enjoy - -lpf3 |
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Post by cynical1 on Mar 28, 2009 23:51:48 GMT -5
Ash and lpf3 -
The piano track is uploaded to Ash's FTP site under the /uploads directory.
BTW, that was a nice little piano track you have there. And I have to agree...I'm not sure where you could put horns in that song to where they wouldn't get lost.
This piano track is going to add a real nice new dimension to this song.
...and if we do get the horns in there we'll have a regular Orleans Parish funeral thing going on...
Happy Trails
Cynical One
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Post by FireBall on Mar 29, 2009 8:48:08 GMT -5
Ash and lpf3 - The piano track is uploaded to Ash's FTP site under the /uploads directory. BTW, that was a nice little piano track you have there. And I have to agree...I'm not sure where you could put horns in that song to where they wouldn't get lost. This piano track is going to add a real nice new dimension to this song. ...and if we do get the horns in there we'll have a regular Orleans Parish funeral thing going on... Happy Trails Cynical One Don't forget the Doo-Wap girls... in tight leather pants...  |
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Post by lpf3 on Apr 8, 2009 15:53:21 GMT -5
I've pretty much decided not to try to fit in a sax part - sorry for the holdup . I'm just not happy with anything I came up with as far as horns go . I'd still like to hear the piano in there , but other than that It's a wrap for me ...... Anybody else ?
-lpf3
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Post by cynical1 on Apr 9, 2009 13:50:14 GMT -5
I've pretty much decided not to try to fit in a sax part - sorry for the holdup . I'm just not happy with anything I came up with as far as horns go . I'd still like to hear the piano in there , but other than that It's a wrap for me ...... Anybody else ? -lpf3 Yeah, I gave up on the sax part too...no place to put it anymore...I'm through. Like lpf3 said, if no one else has anything to add we could probably wrap this and call it a song. Any others lurking in the shadows? Happy Trails Cynical One |
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Post by ashcatlt on Apr 9, 2009 14:58:15 GMT -5
Sorry about the piano thing.
I had one of those things where I just hated the entire mix when I tried to get the piano in there. I wanted to second guess everything and re-do the whole mix. So I decided to walk away from it for a minute.
I'll try to get it in there and finalize the mix in the near future.
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Post by FireBall on Apr 9, 2009 15:16:46 GMT -5
... I guess that just leaves the chic then... ;D
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Post by cynical1 on May 5, 2009 14:32:44 GMT -5
Well, it's been almost 2 months an it appears anyone who wanted to play something has played it.
If there are no new players lurking in the wings would it be agreeable to all if we call it a wrap and send up a final mix?
Happy Trails
Cynical One
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Post by FireBall on May 30, 2009 7:51:39 GMT -5
Its a wrap... everyone take 5!  |
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Post by sumgai on May 30, 2009 12:14:47 GMT -5
Hmmmm, Hope that's not gonna be like in the Military, where you're told to "take 10", you expect 5, and you get 2.   |
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Post by FireBall on May 30, 2009 18:43:47 GMT -5
Hmmmm, Hope that's not gonna be like in the Military, where you're told to "take 10", you expect 5, and you get 2. At work 5 was more like 15...  |
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Oct 16, 2009 13:15:52 GMT -5
Sorry to bump a sort of old topic, but where could I hear this masterpiece?
Edit: Never mind about the bump part, just saw that this was stuck...
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Post by D2o on Oct 16, 2009 14:59:38 GMT -5
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Post by cynical1 on Oct 16, 2009 15:49:49 GMT -5
Just for the record, did we ever do a final mix on this cut? CRS is a terrible thing...
Happy Trails
Cynical One
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Post by ijustwannastrat on Oct 16, 2009 16:13:53 GMT -5
Ah! Tricky! I didn't see that the MP3 preview was clickable....
and for some reason I couldn't play the other file....
sounds awesome, btw!
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Post by popsaka on Mar 10, 2011 12:47:07 GMT -5
That wuz really cool... sounds like a bunch of blokes jamming live... reminds me of a warmup before that 1st rehearsal... couldn't hear the piano, tho'. Can folks jam live over the web yet?
Maybe fibre-optics or...(?) Anyways, I hope I can join in on one of these...
...BTW, was that drumming live midi sequenced or what?(!)
...Whatever it wuz 'twuz truly AWESOME!!!
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Post by 4real on Mar 10, 2011 16:12:10 GMT -5
I was kind of surprised when I only recently discovered that some guys here had been toying with this kind of idea. I am not sure how common it is, but the concept is great...and i suspect the future... There are a fair few limitations though with computers, it is only now that I have really had the technology to do something like this, but the potentials are enormous for collaboration. Getting the right approach to it though might be tricky as I think people have found, might need a different kind of thing to the traditional 'jam' to be rewarding... As I have started into this kind of thing, I've been checking out a few things, one was a series of vids by 'thomas dolby' on his recording and collaborations for his new album. The first part of '17 hills' shows how he got a basic track of the song, then sent it around to some people to see what they could add to it, then cut up as required. The slide plaer he first sent it too, told a friend who players bass and that part replaced the original bass players work in the end, part 2 of the series demonstrates how he worked with Knophler on the song in yet another way, and part 3 some of the string and violin parts... Real time playing is probably not in the foreseeable future I suspect. I attempted something like this with a kind of skype thing, but the delay was significant and the potential for all kinds of noise and feedback was very frustrating...interesting experience. Potentially you could combine that kind of thing with emailing real parts fairly instantly, but playing 'together' as far as I know seems a little out of reach still. But then, look how fast technology and communications have come. I really think that there is a huge potential in this kind of collaboration though, the whole music industry is evolving. Obviously at a higher level, but TD is actively attempting to be completely independent and use a home studio to create the material and his own distribution and publishing completely independent of 'labels' and other affiliations. Some other bands I have heard of have allowed things like the raw tracks to be mixed by fans and I am sure more of this will occur. But, as can be seen by attempts, it can be time consuming and frustrating...adding to a semi completed and more fully conceived 'song' seems to be a far more productive approach, perhaps such things do go on in recording forums, or perhaps a forum especially for this kind of thing is something around the corner , where song writers and would be home recordists can access musicians from anywhere and pick and choose from those contributions as to what fits the tune and vision. The possibilities are fairly amazing, but sound recording is not something that everyone really has access to yet I suspect. I think the idea of posting an MP3 and seeing what others can contribute, sent as a wave file, as TD illustrates is the way to go to really get results...not the traditional 'jam' approach that perhaps we are more used to, but similar in a way... |
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Post by newey on Mar 10, 2011 22:46:15 GMT -5
popsaka, if you want to get involved, the surf jam is still in progress- and progress seems to have stalled a bit, so it could use some help!
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Post by cynical1 on Mar 10, 2011 23:10:09 GMT -5
In another transparent shameless act of self promotion, here's one that newey, lpf3, fireball and I did. Playing in TrafficThe drums are EZ Drummer, the horns are a vsti package, there are two rhythm guitars, one lead and one bass track. No one was in the same room for this song...or the same State for that matter... We did our individual tracks and sent them up for mixing and mastering. We have a few more in the can and a few more in the works. The true advantage to this method is that you work on them as time allows...which is somewhat of a premium these days. Collaboration takes some extra effort. It's not like sitting down in the same room and jamming until it shakes out...but it has its advantages. I genuinely feel it forces you to think in terms of the song in total versus just "your part"... I know I think more about the structure, what I play...or don't play...and how it all relates much better then when I just jammed along. For what it's worth... Happy Trails Cynical One |
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Post by popsaka on Mar 11, 2011 11:22:03 GMT -5
...Seems to me collaboration equals inspiration... and when your co-conspirators are all over the planet... well it ain't nothin' less than amazing! I predict for me its going to be about understanding the possibilities and potential... Now where can I hear what's up so far with the surf?
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Post by ashcatlt on Mar 11, 2011 12:10:11 GMT -5
The drums for this blues jam were generated by a program called Jammer Professional. I think I posted a link earlier in this thread. This site claims it does live online jamming. I've never tried it, but would be willing to. Maybe we work out a date/time where a couplefew of us could run it through it's paces? I spose I should actually finish mixing this thing... |
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Post by cynical1 on Mar 11, 2011 12:17:02 GMT -5
Now where can I hear what's up so far with the surf? Check out the Cowabunga thread for more details and extensive ramblings... HTC1 |
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Post by sumgai on Mar 11, 2011 20:30:09 GMT -5
My now-deceased lead player used to jam live over the net, on Second Life no less. I've even got a video or two of her doing it. I can't remember for 100% certainty, but I think she used something called "Livestream". You can find them on the web at their own site (add '.com') and there are several YouTube videos of how to make that process work both inside and outside of Second Life. I know it works, because she and I used to host a weekly jam session at a local hi-power bar (big, lotsa people), and she'd always set up her laptop, feed the House PA into the inputs, and send it out over the web to a Second Life venue. It had about a 1-2 second feedback delay, so that we wouldn't have obvious microphone howl, yet others "in the Second Life room" could applaud, or shout out requests, and we'd hear it - all live and in color (on the screen!). Other bands in our area (Seattle) are doing this too, so I don't think it'd be like rocket science or anything..... I must disclose that I personally don't do Second Life, so my help on this topic ends here and now. Sorry.  HTH sumgai |
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Post by 4real on Mar 11, 2011 23:34:16 GMT -5
Wow...well, things are moving in the obvious direction faster than I thought...if there is a 1-2 sec delay though, how do people play together in real time though...I can see the 'audience' thing working.
But it is interesting how radically changing media and music and distribution and such is changing...why not music creation and collaboration.
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Post by sumgai on Mar 13, 2011 2:19:25 GMT -5
Pete, That delay was one-ended. I think, but I'm not sure, that the players could hear each other in real time, but that the receiving venue was delayed. Something to do with two-way commo, as I remember it. IOW, the players themselves couldn't communicate directly with one another, they had to text their statements/questions.... Again, as I recall it.... I could be all washed up here, ya know. sumgai |
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Post by gumbo on Mar 13, 2011 5:48:38 GMT -5
sg wrote: "the players themselves couldn't communicate directly with one another"....... ...I've had that in the main band  |
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Post by 4real on Mar 13, 2011 21:56:59 GMT -5
Hahaha...yes, always a problem in that department...I can only imagine that in an open jam that things could get way out of control...and any delay would make it impossible really.
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Post by ashcatlt on Mar 15, 2011 1:23:53 GMT -5
I took sg's suggestion and Circadian Nations streamed something quite a bit less than our best Monday night performance through a blurry webcam this evening. Proof of concept and I'm confident we can make it much better.
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Post by sumgai on Mar 17, 2011 1:45:23 GMT -5
Went back and looked at some old material...
We used Shoutcast, it worked just fine with Second Life.
HTH
sumgai
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